arnim zola Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I think they confirmed the scepter is the mind gem. It must have been out of order that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENIME_art Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The problem with Loki's staff being a stone, and also being blue like the Tesseract, isn't necessarily "unfaithful to the comics", but "doesn't fit with the MCU's own representation of the stones." There aren't two blues in either GotG or the Infinity War teaser. 6 unique colors in both. I know the teaser showed Loki's staff, but if it is one, it's gotta change colors when it's removed (or placed in the gauntlet). Or maybe it's part of the Tesseract. Combine them together, and they become one stone, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This isn't a forum, it's a time bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 This ain't a scene, it's a goddamned arms race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElGallo21 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well, If loki's staff really is the mind stone then maybe its only tricking our minds into thinking that its blue. BOOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Mind? BLOWN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbofett Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I thought the gem in Loki's staff was just part of the tesseract. When Widow used it against itself, it closed the wormhole. That's how i remembered it. Have to go back and watch Avengers again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnim zola Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 That's how it happened, but that doesn't mean that's how it is. When Gotg came out James Gunn did an interview touching on which stone the orb was, why the aether was the wrong color, and confirmed what the other stones/objects we're. Both that interview and another one from kevin feige (I think ) confirmed the staff was the mind stone. I'll see if I can find it tomorrow and link it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I forget what all was said in the movie, but are we sure each stone even translates to a specific aspect? Or is it possible that they are just six fragments of one super powerful weapon / artifact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) I'm not getting into the middle of this very interesting discussion without declaring that I'm not bringing anything to the party other than my speculation & I've skimmed rather than read the whole thread . First thing that strikes me about the stones are their colours (obviously ) ........I'm not certain but surely there is more than coincidence that the six stones represent six of the seven colours of the spectrum........ ROYGBIV ? I don't profess to know more than anybody else & I know less about what stones we've seen where , in each movie, but I am convinced that a seventh stone will (or has made) make its presence felt. Indigo may well be that stone . edit: grammar Edited December 16, 2014 by buttheadsmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I dunno, the Gauntlet has been in the comics for 20-odd years. Has there ever been a seventh stone revealed? Seems like an even more unwieldy number for a film series to thoroughly investigate. Plus, most people would probably say "Why's there two purples?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You're probably right ...no fuss from me just speculation ......but do the movies follow what we once saw in the comics . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Now they're starting to cannibalize the comics. I understand trying to have synergy, but I'm not thrilled about a recent development with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. It seems to serve no purpose aside from turning Marvel's comics into essentially monthly installments of the movie-verse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkguerilla Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I dunno, the Gauntlet has been in the comics for 20-odd years. Has there ever been a seventh stone revealed? Seems like an even more unwieldy number for a film series to thoroughly investigate. There was a seventh gem introduced back in the 90s when the gauntlet and it's accouterments were whisked away to the Malibu Ultraverse. That gem, Ego, promptly Voltron'd with the other six gems and became some monster thing that was even more promptly defeated. The gems un-Voltron'd and that seventh stone died with the Ultraverse. That is to say, that seventh gem has no place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm getting a "Blackest Night" vibe from all these color-coded gems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 ....note the colours of those rings ,Red,Orange, Yellow ,Green ,Blue ....another Blue * ....& Violet . * or is that Indigo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 There is definitely an indigo ring. But as far as I know, the various corps didn't exist back when the Infinity Gems/Gauntlet/Watch came about. Sinestro's yellow ring was unique for a long time, and the Star Sapphires were retconned to be a corps. Honestly don't know if they've always had rings, but I assume so. ...So Blackest Night might be giving you an Infinity Gauntlet vibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 There is definitely an indigo ring. But as far as I know, the various corps didn't exist back when the Infinity Gems/Gauntlet/Watch came about. Sinestro's yellow ring was unique for a long time, and the Star Sapphires were retconned to be a corps. Honestly don't know if they've always had rings, but I assume so. ...So Blackest Night might be giving you an Infinity Gauntlet vibe. The Sapphires usually had a powerful stone embedded in their head. Those were turned into rings when Johns started his run because they realized it was more practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnim zola Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Guess I misread the stones deal, Im still pretty certain I read at least one confirmation about the mind stone http://www.nerdist.com/2014/08/james-gunn-receives-an-infinity-stone-from-marvel-for-his-birthday/ http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Superior/news/?a=111744 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stack32 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Now they're starting to cannibalize the comics. I understand trying to have synergy, but I'm not thrilled about a recent development with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. It seems to serve no purpose aside from turning Marvel's comics into essentially monthly installments of the movie-verse. At this point I wish they were monthly installments of the MCU; I'd be much more likely to buy that than what we're getting now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexion_Armando Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You could call the Gauntlet itself the 7th gem, if you wanted to be lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Now they're starting to cannibalize the comics. I understand trying to have synergy, but I'm not thrilled about a recent development with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. It seems to serve no purpose aside from turning Marvel's comics into essentially monthly installments of the movie-verse. At this point I wish they were monthly installments of the MCU; I'd be much more likely to buy that than what we're getting now. On some level I'd agree, but when they start retconning decades old characterization just because they don't have the rights to all their characters, that's going too far in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zylek Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 ya i dont expect the gems from the comics to be the same colors in the films, i think even Marvel has said this. secondly I know Loki's scepter has a lot of infinity gem theories and i know marvel has fed a lot of those theories but I sincerely hope it isnt a Stone as that would make Thanos incredibly incompetent at collecting any of the infinity stones considering hes had 2 lost by generals he barely trusted and this would mean he gave one of his newest and most untrustworthy generals one of his most valuable possessions basically Im hoping Thanos is not that dumb ^ This! Just handing over a gem to the most devious and untrustworthy person seems like way too much of a risk in order to gain another gem. At least for Ronan he was just hired to get a stone and bring it back, he didn't actually give him the Aether, for example, in order to find it They could explain the color thing if it turned purple when removed from the scepter but the stupidity of willfully giving it to Loki would be hard to reconcile to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENIME_art Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Except the Guardians' stone was purple. So then we would have two purples, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious Stranger Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Wait, you guys are missing something critical here ... Thanos didn't HAVE the Tesseract before he sent Loki to Earth in Avengers. He was sent to retrieve it for Thanos, which was kinda the whole point of the movie. So when Loki arrived on Earth he could have channeled the power of the Tesseract through his staff. Or his staff isn't related to the Tesseract at all. Just another Asgard magic bauble. I'm of course basing this on the presumption that all 6 Infinity stones are in play and Thanos doesn't have any of them at the beginning of Avengers. Edited December 17, 2014 by Mysterious Stranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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