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@DSTZach Okay, I'm trying not to be confrontational but i am confrontational by nature (i have an Emma Frost avatar for a reason) and i apologise for if anything like "lazy" or anything else that sounds insulting is in here but i want to raise these points Kaine's Minimate design is based on Mark Bagley art from Amazing Spider-Man #397. This is actually an inaccurate depiction of his costume - namely the colours and the lack of design elements (or the visibility of them in the art). Kaine was created and designed by Steven Butler in Web of Spider-Man #117, he is otherwise consistently depicted as his mask being the same colour as the rest of his "costume" (be it a blue or black, however one interprets it, neither interpretation would be wrong or incorrect). Whereas most of his design elements are actual crucial parts of the character's history and origin. He is scarred (due to cellular degeneration caused by imperfect cloning). The lines, resembling random web lines, all over his costume are representative of that. He has spikes, also caused by his origin as a faulty clone. Green Goblin's design is based on a recoloured cover to Spectacular Spider-Man #225 for the Green Goblin: A Lighter Shade of Green trade paperback from the early 2010s. These new colours are, again, a bad representation of the character's colour scheme - the trade paperback cover is the only image of the character with that almost blue shade of purple. Likewise, the use of shadows has been misinterpreted as part of the colour scheme. Like Kaine, certain things are again important parts of the character's backstory. Phil Urich's origin is that he stumbled onto a secret hideout formerly used by the Green Goblin (we never learn if it was Norman or Harry, just one of them) and all of his equipment and even his costume are leftover Green Goblin gear. The colours are meant to be whatever colour an Osborn Green Goblin costume would be in 1995. In my mind, I'm willing to accept many little things. As I noted, Kaine... should... have spikes all over but that would be a nightmare to actually implement. Getting rid of that - that is fine with me. I understand that completely. I never for a minute even expected him to have spikes if we ever got him. Then his patterning that runs throughout his body is probably a bit too detailed, randomly complicated and annoying to actually put on his arms and legs. Nor is it that I am a stickler for "what I remember", I'm actually a big fan of the Marvel Legends figure of Madelyne Pryor from X-Men 97 and prefer that to her actual comic costume. Yes, I recently said I felt compelled to make Typhoid Mary look more like how she looked in the 80s but I was totally fine that I had to do that, I was happy there was a Typhoid Mary to do it with at all. I don't know what to say. Initially I was worried because things that are quite core to the characters were not known - and that's forgivable. I'm not expecting people making kid's toys to know every facet of every character from a license. I also know that licensors often don't really provide reference materials and that actually devoting resources to the level of research that people believe they deserve isn't viable either. If you don't know Kaine's costume is covered in those weird web style patterns because his skin is like that and it's all a big part of his character... that's fine. And the Phil Urich thing, you don't have to know that. Neither of these things are essential knowledge, my problem is that I feel pretty confident I have identified the exact sources of these designs. I don't mean to come off as snide or insulting when I claim they are the first image results on Google Image Search for those characters but it is the truth. It opens a myriad of further concerns - things like the fact Google displays multiple results at once, so why has reference only been narrowed to the one when even just a quick glance at a second image would quickly make it clear that the colours aren't like that anywhere else. Furthermore, maybe more practically and demonstratably concerning, if this is evident of overall reference - what's to stop the next wave of Minimates having a character design accidentally based on original fan art by mistake? It happened to Mike Deodato Jr. with a cover featuring Kate Bishop Hawkeye a few years ago. The recent DC animated movies "borrowed" (aka outright stole) a DeviantArt redesign of Black Lightning. Something like that one recoloured Green Goblin trade cover could just as easily have been some guy practicing colouring and they posted it on Twitter and it got retweeted a bunch and then someone uploaded it to a forum or a website or posted it in a Favourite Characters Thread and it got passed around over and over again and now it is the first Google Image Result without the clue of it's origin. Now, having said all this and had my 17th moan of the year on here, I think the absolutely funniest response would be to not acknowledge any of this and just clinically say "these are prototype shots for marketing purposes, they are not representative of the final product".

Having thought on it, yep, that recoloured image for the trade of the series is exactly what they've based Phil Urich on. My head space was thinking of the purple because I knew he was purple and green so I didn't really even clock or have the mental capacity to recognise that to someone who has never seen the character before, the amount of black could be construed as his cloak is black and it is part of his colour scheme. That it's not even the original colours of the cover (it was a recolored image for a trade paperback in the early 2010s) and that for some reason they are referring to that and only that is genuinely dismaying.

I'd buy some Fallout mates.

Bastion? 🤔 really hoping we get him at some point. lol I missed out on when @luke314pi auctioned off the custom ones he made.

Fallout minimates are something I've wanted for ages, but the show gives the property a higher profile and some more obvious character choices. I can imagine a box set of the leads and an Endgame-type set with vault suits and lots of heads, at least.

I totally understand your 'why's' ? TBQH I am not up to speed with this particular SM era but I can see where you are coming from ,having just studied 'Phil Urich Green Goblin' on the Marvel (database) . There's a great picture of PUGG & I wouldn't mind betting that that picture heavily influenced the Minimate designer , who knows? In that picture GG's cloak looks to be black on the outer side & a mixture of purple & red on the inside ! Heaven forbid that I am being perceived as being an authority on....er.... anything

Then why is the product's mask and "chest emblem" not the same black of the rest of his costume? I know very well that Kaine's costume could be seen as black, but the Minimate's mask and the bit on his cape piece are blue against the rest of the body which is black. Whatever colour Kaine's costume is, however you want to interpret the colour, it is very definitely the one base colour. The Minimate is presenting two colours. The reason and the reason for the entire Minimate looking off is this one image which is the first that comes up on Google and is the only time he is drawn that way - incorrectly without the scar patterning running all through his costume and wherein he appears to have blue and black parts. We're getting a Minimate of a character based on one art team's mistake in an issue rather than the character's design as it appears in every other issue. And then on the other hand, why is Green Goblin's purple cloak completely black. Not even matching the dark almost blue purple parts of his costume. It's the exact same problem as Kaine, the designs either haven't been researched adequately or they have become lost from what they are meant to look like along the way. I challenge anyone to find me a picture of Phil Urich Green Goblin with a combo of black cloak and almost blue rest of costume. The closest I can find is this which is a digitally recoloured cover for a trade collection and still is far from black and blue. This was the original art and it's colours.

Daaaamn! That's such clever reuse of the Shadow Merk wings.

Awesome!

Everybody else: 90s af Jackal: teehee i remember when gerald ford was president

Without getting too technical ( I will if you insist) blue tints were often used to portray black in the same way yellow portrayed gold ......'back in the day ' when comics were solely printed in CMYK. Minimates are not printed in CMYK , the palette of colours available to a tampo-printer is theoretically limitless as is the imagination & interpretation of a toy-designer .

To me, Kaine's costume looks black in those pics.

My previous post bemoans minimate hands ...... I spent half a lifetime as a lithographic printer matching colours daily with or without a Pantone book. Matching & specifying a colour from a comic book for a plastic toy can't be easy & individual perceptions of colour differ , I think we should perhaps be a little more forgiving ? Unless,however, we're talking about Fantastic Four Minimates & specifically Ben Grimm

Deathbird, the Imperial Guard and the Starjammers ain't even muties. The Gen X kids on the other hand.

Okay, he's slightly less blue which is an improvement but I'd say Goblin still isn't even close to the right colours. His costume, his origin, is that he found one of Osborn's old hideouts with his costumes and equipment. They are meant to be the same colour as the other Green Goblins. That's why every single bit of art of him has him in those vibrant green and pink/purple. There's none with him in blue, there's none with him in black that isn't meant to be inferred as shadow or shading. And Kaine's body is beyond annoying. My chief complaint is he's meant to be one colour throughout his costume. The navy blue. It's meant to run across his entire costume, the grey "web" lines on his mask are all over his body, they're meant to represent clone degeneration and the scars he has on his unmasked face. Then there's the spikes but I find the random blue and black scheme of the Minimate completely off. I noticed when you google image search for Kaine (or if go on his Wikipedia page) - the first result has very dark art showing him in a manner where one could infer that design of the Minimate - that his mask and chest are blue and the rest black but it's the only image of him like that. This is what the character looks like: I would understand losing the pattern for simplicity's sake and even losing the spikes for logistical reasons but that the colours aren't even right on him or Phil is hugely bothering. So close to pre-ordering the set but... to me, Kaine and Phil Urich are only slightly recognisable as who they are meant to be. They look familiar but have been badly researched and/or inaccurately adapted. Both these things aren't just nitpicks, they are integral parts of the character's designs or backstories. Kaine is a messed up clone with scarring and spikes all over because he is imperfect, his costume reflects that. He didn't have this funky lining all over because he thought it looked cool, it represents an important part of who he is and his origin. And on origins, Green Goblin's story is he found the old Green Goblin's stash, not that he found some cosplay rags somewhere that are off-colour. And, while I'm at it, man, unmasked Kaine is asking too much but not having one will suck - a face with unique marks on it that could actually hammer home the fact he and Ben are both meant to be Peter Parker clones... but I guess we're not getting an unmasked Ben either so, what's the point. I'm sure Luke will do some stickers at some point. On another note, a positive is to see Spider-Carnage is coming with alternate legs (and it looks like arms) to further compliment the look. That'd have been a small thing I'd have been willing to overlook but nice effort. Still is easily something I would trade for Kaine's body actually looking anything like Kaine's body. Are those shoulder pads new on Doc Ock? Are they part of the back-harness with her octopi arms? People wanting an unmasked Phil, the Emil Gregg head that came with Sin-Eater has the perfect hair for him. Exact style and colour from his series. The costume might be the completely wrong colours but at least he can have accurate hair. I'm going to be longing for a follow-up with Spidercide. That way my insatiable need for an 80s style Beetle seems more grounded.

Those are great-looking minimates , that Jackal is superb . After all these years I still wish all minimates had fingered hands , the Jackal & the Spider-guy make Doc.Ock's minimate hands (in particular) look almost odd

sorry if this has been covered -- what story (or plural) is this tied to if we wanted to read up. i quit reading comics for a bit in the 90's and honestly NONE of these designs look familiar to me but it looks like a crazy story. EDIT i just saw the two series posted on the prior page of the post. d'oh! any others i should look for? is this version of doc ock in there?

those are some really great colors, this set has me excited!

Thank you, I worked him up using the multitude of images I had come across and merged what I liked. Thank you for the comments.

I'm not much of a comics guy which is why my comments are often limited to "Nice work!". Idk the source material. I do quite like the last one.

Looking good! Nice to see you and hear you speak again, Zach. The blues and purples on Spider-Man, Green Goblin and Kaine look much better on these samples.

Diamond had a Marvel Showcase 2024 special on YouTube this morning. Although no new Minimates were shown, we did get a better look at this set. The Minimates section of the video starts around 3:29 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT--LcdvwVg

So I have worked up two versions of Vandal Savage. I am leaning to keep #1 in my collection and yet I like both versions. Version 1 of Vandal Savage Version 2 of Vandal Savage I have also made Scarecrow, who is likely one of my favorite Batman villains. Version 1 of Scarecrow. I sculpted the hat and used some crafting burlap material to cover a head piece and the top of the chest block. I now the hands are from a Sabretooth figure and I believe the chest block is from a Gabe Jones minimates, not sure about the legs. Version 2 of Scarecrow, I sculpted the head and hat along with the part over the chest block and used a Anti-Ghostbuster body. Then I made Sinestro Corps Scarecrow. I am liking this one but may give him the burlap head treatment as I did sculpt and extra hat just incase. (Note: My six year old niece made the lantern for me as she saw it on a picture and thought Scarecrow needed one of his own.)

Deathbird WIP https://imgur.com/a/SUIlLtu

Deathbird WIP https://imgur.com/a/SUIlLtu