undeadpool Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Bran's story wont be featured this season as George RR Martin has not written past that point yet, though with the show now diverging largely from the books, this may change next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What are the highs though? When has anything good ever happened on this show? Dany riding a fucking dragon out of the arena made my tits tingle. That was so cool that I entirely blocked out what Stannis did. My Facebook friends were posting "Great episode... except for THAT horrible thing!" And I was literally wondering what "horrible thing" they were talking about. I was so thrilled with the notion of this fantasy show going as far as showing a chick riding a dragon that I'd almost forgotten about the little girl who'd just been burned alive. It was a good/bad day for girls and fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Yeah, the highs are all over the place. In that episode alone you had Jaime's negotiation of Bronn's release (a huge point of relief for me!), Jorah apparently regaining his position as a trusted aid to Dany, and the flight away from the fighting Colosseum at the end. I'm sure very soon we will see Arya dishing out some violent justice, the Boltons and/or Stannis getting what's coming to them, Brienne kicking some ass, and possibly Theon finding some redemption, which are all things the audience wants to see. If the story didn't have things like that, interest would wane very quickly, because the viewer is looking for hope/release/redemption/justice. It's a lot like life in general IMO. We go through crap a lot, horrible things happen in the world, but we also have the good things that keep us going, and that are all that much sweeter because they exist despite all the darkness out there. Edited June 9, 2015 by karamazov80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnim zola Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Stannis is a fool. He's grinding his army into ground before they even get to attack. I convinced the witch doesn't know what's she's doing and is just making it up as she goes along. Im more convinced in every episode she is in that Melisandre is the ONLY person in westeros that knows exactly what shes doing and what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yeah, the highs are all over the place. In that episode alone you had Jaime's negotiation of Bronn's release (a huge point of relief for me!), Jorah apparently regaining his position as a trusted aid to Dany, and the flight away from the fighting Colosseum at the end. I'm sure very soon we will see Arya dishing out some violent justice, the Boltons and/or Stannis getting what's coming to them, Brienne kicking some ass, and possibly Theon finding some redemption, which are all things the audience wants to see. If the story didn't have things like that, interest would wane very quickly, because the viewer is looking for hope/release/redemption/justice. It's a lot like life in general IMO. We go through crap a lot, horrible things happen in the world, but we also have the good things that keep us going, and that are all that much sweeter because they exist despite all the darkness out there. http://youtu.be/L2Wx230gYJw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Exactly That song has seemed much more profound to me as I get on in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortysben Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Wow...what a finale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwoosheyman Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 no, no, no, no, no, no....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 EVERYTHING IS HORRIBLE AND IT ALL HURTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Yeah, brutal. Of all the things I could imagine happening, that wasn't one of them. Having said that. . . I don't think it's a coincidence that Mellisandre appeared right before Jon was offed. I suspect her higher power was guiding her there, and maybe. . .just maybe she'll be able to revive him as the Lord of Light previously has with Beric Dondarrion. Harrington said in an interview that Jon Snow is dead for good, but maybe he could be revived with another identity or something? *note that this spoiler is based in no way on the books, which I haven't read, but is just speculation. Edited June 15, 2015 by karamazov80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobsterman Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Gotta say, the Starks are kind of dummies when it comes to walking right into traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 LOL That's their shtick! A comedian could make a living off of "So a Stark walks into a trap. . ." jokes. I'm reading that lots of people are just done with Game of Thrones after last night. So now, we have three discrete moments this season where chunks of fans decided they had had enough--Sansa's rape, the burning of Stannis's daughter, and Snow's death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 It has been a ROUGH season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 That was a lot of death. Stannis' end was unexpected, at least by Brienne's hand. There was some confusion as to where Theon and Sansa were jumping to but it's probably more about who they were jumping from. Arya's vengeance was satisfying but what a price to pay. Jaime's paternal confession was strangely heart-warming until-- ACK! Cersei's walk of shame was agonizing. When she learns of her daughter's death, her new FrankenKnight will have a long To-Do list. Dany really needs to watch How to Train Your Dragon. I loved the awkward silence in the audience chamber as Tyrion contemplated his new responsibilities. Jon Snow's death was perfect. As with Sansa's wedding night and Shireen's family barbecue, I'd have been more disappointed if it hadn't happened. You don't get to piss off a pack of rapists and murderers without some kind of consequences. I just hope they're smart enough to burn the body so the White Walkers don't bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) very good finale im a little surprised at people being so outraged , and quitting the show, based on the horrendous acts potrayed lately, what did you think you were watching a Disney production? Incest and beheadings are ok but marital rape is too far? weve seen others burned at the stake etc havent we? Edited June 15, 2015 by Mattallica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 MisterPL, I've heard a LOT of theories on Jon (Red Lady, Warg, Frankensnow) but personally feel like him coming back as a White Walker would be the MOST interesting turn of events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 This season was a chore. I really don't know if we'll keep watching. And no, it wasn't any one scene that did it, just the culmination of hours and hours of bleakness. If Jon is really dead, who is there to root for? Dany? That's no way to live. Seriously, there was one nice moment in the entire episode, between Jamie and Princess Whatshername. And so, of course... she dies. This was a really, really cruel episode to women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Well, if women still want to be treated equally, they can suffer, too. Personally I'm not paying attention to what's between a character's legs unless something's crawling out of it or being chopped off. In this Game, everyone suffers. That red witch took off for The Wall as soon as she realized the shitstorm she'd gotten into. Brienne executed Stannis. Sansa escaped Ramsay. Arya killed the first person on her death list in a pretty gruesome way and only lost her eyesight. Dany is safe with Drogon and her old horse-riding buddies. Sam got his girlfriend and namesake out of the North. I'd say the ladies fared okay. Stannis lost his wife and everyone left in his army because he followed a woman's advice and was killed by another woman. Theon and Sansa jumped to an uncertain fate after killing a woman who threatened to maim her. Jamie lost his daughter because a woman poisoned her. Cersei endured her Walk of Shame because a woman coerced a confession out of her. One of the reasons I like this show is because it doesn't treat the women any differently than the men. Everyone's flawed, everyone shows signs of redemption, everyone struggles and anyone can die. If it's a cruel show for women then it's a cruel show for men, too. If you want to watch a show that's really horrible for women, watch Downton Abbey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I guess. Maybe I just don't want to watch a show where everyone's always suffering anymore. Well, except for Ramsey. He never suffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Ramsay needs some suffering. A LOT. The last season of Sons of Anarchy was pretty brutal, too. I was glad that was over with. So much tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexion_Armando Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Stannis isn't dead.I wont believe it till I see his corpse.At this point, Lady Stoneheart probably stopped Brienne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I guess. Maybe I just don't want to watch a show where everyone's always suffering anymore. Well, except for Ramsey. He never suffers. I hope the show ends with Ramsay on the Iron Throne, flaying Dany and Tyrion while the screen fades to black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Katz Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 At this rate K80, that wouldn't surprise me. Sansa is probably dead unless she landed on Reek Dany I'm guessing doesn't have cache with those Dothraki since they followed Drogo, not her and I'm very disappointed about Jon, even though it was very obvious that he was being tricked, how'd he not see that? Now I'm officially with team Cersei (I love Fraken-Mountain). I can't wait to see what she does for redemption, revenge? This show flips everything on you so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This season was a chore. I really don't know if we'll keep watching. And no, it wasn't any one scene that did it, just the culmination of hours and hours of bleakness. If Jon is really dead, who is there to root for? Dany? That's no way to live. Forgetting Bran, are you? I'd always assumed that Jon was the child of Leanna and Rheagar, and as such would have the most legitimate of all claims to the throne. Not to mention, he would have been born of both fire and ice. If he's truly dead, more's the pity, as that theory's out the window. If Stannis IS dead, that means his betrayal of his daughter served only to drive his men from his service, leaving him vulnerable to attack. I'd rather believe he yet lives, and that his moment of weakness will have a more lasting impact on his character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Yes, I forgot about Bran. Didn't you? He's fucking Bran! I can't say I noticed his absence for a second on this season. I buy into the theory that Jon will rise again,that he's got king's blood in him, and that he's like that other guy we saw a few seasons ago that can't die. I forget the name of the religious sect, but it makes sense for Jon. I feel confident that Stannis is dead. There's no way that Brianne stopped short of her sword stroke, unless something stopped her, and if that's the case, why not show that? It's a better cliffhanger if someone (or something) kills Brianne and carries off Stannis rather then just cutting to black and saving that for next year. But, really, this feels like the end of his story. He was a hard man that, in the end, betrayed the very core of his being on a folly, and it lead to his doom. What more is there to do with him? I don't think Reek and Sansa are dead; having grown up in Winterfell, they probably knew that the snow was deep enough to cushion their fall. Edited June 16, 2015 by hellpop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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