Valo487 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 "Since you have stated there are currently no plans for everyone’s favorite purple Avenger villain…Kang! What are the chances for a minimate of everyone’s second favorite purple Avenger villain…Baron Zemo? Preferably Helmut Zemo, Heinrich was a doofus. DSTChuck: I’ve got to be honest with you, I’m not sure Zemo has really been seriously discussed." Umm.....ok? I have to say, I really don't understand this one. Baron Zemo is arguably Captain America's second biggest villain after the Red Skull, as well as the leader of the Masters of Evil, who have been mentioned as a potential boxset pretty much since Giant Size X-Men came out several years ago, and he's not been seriously discussed? I know sometimes they're vague because they don't want to give stuff away, but the response Chuck gave leads me to believe that's not the case here. Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset or angry about this, just puzzled why one of the big name Marvel villains who has been around for so long and posed a major threat to Captain America and the Avengers hasn't ever been on the table. Thoughts? Opinions? Should I get a life? That last one's a joke, but feel free, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvet Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i feel ya, bro. i would freakin' LOVE a baron zemo minimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessex Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I grew up reading pretty much exclusively X-Men. I've only recently started reading a couple of other titles, so ihaven't had much exposure to Baron Zemo. If we look at Marvel Legends, we didn't see a Zemo figure until the second last series ToyBiz released. It took 14 waves, 8 box sets and 1 Face-Off wave before we got one. I'm not arguing that it's fair or that it's indicative of his true status as a villain. . . but he doesn't seem to be a character that toy manufacturers see as a 'Must Release' figure. In fact - the only other toy i recall of BZ was the old Secret Wars figure. I personally think he'd make a great looking MiniMate . . . but i can also understand him not being the first Villain that comes to mind when people from outside the Captain America mythology think of when trying to decide on who to materialize as a figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) I forth that, Baron zemo and the Masters of Evil VI(thunderbolts) should be made into a minimates.Because then that would give us songbird, and complete the modern thunderbolts. Edited March 21, 2010 by Scorpion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I too would love to get a Baron Zemo Minimate if only to ask the question ............... "Is anybody else having trouble removing Zemo's mask?" Je m'interesse plus a arriver 'Batroc zee Leapair'....c'est tres formidable C'est Magnifique! ..........mais un coq! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRGMann Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 "Is anybody else having trouble removing Zemo's mask?" I laughed out loud when I read that... My first comic ever was one of those book and records with Cap and the Falcon fighting the Phoenix, one of Zemo's aliases, and at the end he fell into a big boiling vat of "Adhesive X"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwoosheyman Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I too was surprised and disappointed by the answer from AA/DST. I figured at least he would have been seriously considered if not on the list to be made soon. Zemo's been around for a long while and there's three good choices for minimates (Henrich, Helmut (classic & modern)). However given AA/DST lack of villains for many years maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I think we got more villains last year than in all previous years combined. Spiderman's rogue gallery is really the only one that has been focused on by AA/DST. Even the X-men villains are lacking in number. (where are my Blob, Avalanche, Pyro, Toad & Mr Sinister minimates?) Hopefully the question asked to AA/DST, the discussion here, the Captain America movie and Zemo being a major villain in the new "heroic age" in the comics will help get him made. Just in case I think I better start work on a custom Zemo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I guess it's all about which comics you read. I have no idea who Baron Zemo is. I have no idea who Kang is. I'm fine with them doing all the Spidey villains cos I know them! I think there's a whole group of us who perhaps aren't into the comics as much as the various cartoons, which is why everyone goes mad for Spidey's rogues gallery and all the 90s X-Men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I had no idea who Deadpool was ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I was also a tad bit surprised, but similar to all of us, I'm guessing that the "deciders" at DST have comics they are more or less familiar with, which goes into the decision-making calculus. If DSTStan or whomever was a huge fan of early Avengers comics, I'm sure that Zemo I would have been given more thought. If someone was a fan of the original Thunderbolts, I'm sure that version of Zemo would have received more attention. Another reason may be that though we have got some great, vintage characters and outfits (first appearance sets, Invaders, Defenders), relatively speaking, we just can't expect a huge focus on that particular era when there are figures from the modern era, the 90s, the 80s, and the 70s to consider. There is so much to Marvel and its history, that maybe it isn't so surprising that the first Masters of Evil and Kang haven't received that much thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) We need Captain America sets/waves just from the top of my head Adolph Hitler Red skull Sin(red skulls daughter) Sin as the new red skull Crossbones Baron Zemo I Baron Zemo II Arnim Zola Baron Blood Baron Strucker super adaptiod the entire serpent squad/society scourge madcap Batroc Mr Hyde Machete the Falcon(original green costume) the Falcon (classic red and white) the Falcon (modern) Nomad (Steve Rogers) street clothes Steve Rogers with a art portfolio case that holds his shield Diamond back D-man Edited March 21, 2010 by Mattallica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheul Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 We need Captain America sets/waves just from the top of my head Adolph Hitler Red skull Sin(red skulls daughter) Sin as the new red skull Crossbones Baron Zemo I Baron Zemo II Arnim Zola Baron Blood Baron Strucker super adaptiod the entire serpent squad/society scourge madcap Batroc Mr Hyde Machete the Falcon(original green costume) the Falcon (classic red and white) the Falcon (modern) Nomad (Steve Rogers) street clothes Steve Rogers with a art portfolio case that holds his shield Diamond back D-man You will NEVER EVER see a Hitler Minimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 You will NEVER EVER see a Hitler Minimate. Admittedly, the U.S. is not Asia, and DST is not Medicom. However. . . http://cgi.ebay.com/TOKYO-TRIBE-2-SERIES-3...=item1c10e6cf27 Also, there are several Nazi military figures out there. DST has had licenses exclusively targeting adult collectors. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility, though I agree that it is unlikely as long as they are trying to target kids at Toys R Us and avoid potential negative publicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murderofcrows Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 We need Captain America sets/waves just from the top of my head Adolph Hitler Red skull Sin(red skulls daughter) Sin as the new red skull Crossbones Baron Zemo I Baron Zemo II Arnim Zola Baron Blood Baron Strucker super adaptiod the entire serpent squad/society scourge madcap Batroc Mr Hyde Machete the Falcon(original green costume) the Falcon (classic red and white) the Falcon (modern) Nomad (Steve Rogers) street clothes Steve Rogers with a art portfolio case that holds his shield Diamond back D-man You will NEVER EVER see a Hitler Minimate. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Adolph Hitler Sorry Matt (really !) Dolph Lundgren ..... Flipper the Dolphin ...... Adolph ........ Adolf Shickelgruber . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Dolph Lundgren For some reason this thought never crossed my mind until now, but He-Man Minimates would be awesome. They would be so colorful and interesting-looking. Not that Mattel would ever allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 You will NEVER EVER see a Hitler Minimate. Yes, I know, but I said WE NEED! But they could make Mustached evil leader minimate (with no swastikas) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) ! But they could make Mustached evil leader minimate (with no swastikas) Funnier things have happened....... edit : Mugabe....not so funny. Edited March 21, 2010 by buttheadsmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx_6 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 We need Captain America sets/waves just from the top of my head Adolph Hitler Red skull Sin(red skulls daughter) Sin as the new red skull Crossbones Baron Zemo I Baron Zemo II Arnim Zola Baron Blood Baron Strucker super adaptiod the entire serpent squad/society scourge madcap Batroc Mr Hyde Machete the Falcon(original green costume) the Falcon (classic red and white) the Falcon (modern) Nomad (Steve Rogers) street clothes Steve Rogers with a art portfolio case that holds his shield Diamond back D-man Don't forget Sharon Carter. A female SHIELD agent would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 In retrospect, I think what bothers me about this is what it likely means for other 'Mates I'd really like to see. I've always thought Captain America could support a wave with his characters, like Falcon, Winter Soldier, Crossbones, Zemo, Zemo variant perhaps? Also, this would also mean that a Masters of Evil set is a long way from happening. Maybe when the Captain America movie comes out we'll see a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubya Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) "Is anybody else having trouble removing Zemo's mask?" I laughed out loud when I read that... My first comic ever was one of those book and records with Cap and the Falcon fighting the Phoenix, one of Zemo's aliases, and at the end he fell into a big boiling vat of "Adhesive X"! I loved that book/record!! While I don't believe it was my first comic (I think that was Avengers #?), it is without a doubt my most reread comic as it stayed at my grandparent's and was read every time that I visited (even into adulthood). So many memories attached to that 'lil "power-record". Hell, now I want a cheesy "Phoenix" Zemo variant (gazillion-to-one odds) to go along with Heinrich and Helmut 'mates (looks like a new custom challenge)! :biggrin: Edited March 22, 2010 by cdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 In retrospect, I think what bothers me about this is what it likely means for other 'Mates I'd really like to see. I've always thought Captain America could support a wave with his characters, like Falcon, Winter Soldier, Crossbones, Zemo, Zemo variant perhaps? Also, this would also mean that a Masters of Evil set is a long way from happening. Maybe when the Captain America movie comes out we'll see a change. SHIELD Army Builder I'm sure. Or can you think of anyone better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Man Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I'd love to get a classic Baron Zemo, with a variant of the more modern look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 In retrospect, I think what bothers me about this is what it likely means for other 'Mates I'd really like to see. I've always thought Captain America could support a wave with his characters, like Falcon, Winter Soldier, Crossbones, Zemo, Zemo variant perhaps? Also, this would also mean that a Masters of Evil set is a long way from happening. Maybe when the Captain America movie comes out we'll see a change. SHIELD Army Builder I'm sure. Or can you think of anyone better? Nope, that sounds pretty good to me. Preferably the blue and white look, since we got the Army style look in the Ultimates wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirymate Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, I'll admit I'm surprised that Chuck had generally seemed positive about Songbird, but somehow Zemo's never been discussed. Odd to me. Zemo certainly has one of the better track records of Marvel villains, and one of the few that's even brifly managed to conquer the whole world. You'd think you get more respect for that. >shrug< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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