stack32 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 That hair, plus Zach's comment in the POP thread mean we have to be getting a comic Medusa soon, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloDelorean Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, stack32 said: That hair, plus Zach's comment in the POP thread mean we have to be getting a comic Medusa soon, right? I wouldn't surprised if this was what he was referencing in the POP thread, but reusing that big, complex hair sculpt does seem like a possibility. I wouldn't mind another one, especially if it was at LCS. I think this figure definitely works as modern comic Medusa (especially with First Class Jean's head, that was a good call). However, if what you wanted was a classic Kirby Medusa, I can also see how this wouldn't scratch that itch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stack32 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Yeah, I suppose that makes more sense. I'll have to get my Inhumans fix elsewhere, but at least the piece will be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) I meant this Medusa. Remember, I think that most complaints of animated vs. comic are utterly ridiculous. If she had green hair and blue skin, I would probably not think she was a suitable alternative, but this is Medusa to me. Not a masked villain Medusa, but she's had a lot of looks since then. No 616 Medusa planned. And it's so interesting to me how some people are pro-slip-on mask and others are not. I like both! Edited July 15, 2017 by DSTZach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMiracle Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I only wanted one minimate from that last wave and I'm not interested in anything here in this wave. Â :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stack32 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 hours ago, DSTZach said: No 616 Medusa planned. Well, hey, thanks for the confirmation along with the insult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan The Accuser Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I should have clarified better in my last post but yes, it's classic Medusa I'm looking for. If I was interested in a modern look, this one would work for me. The way minimates are built, with a hair piece that fits on top of the base head, I personally feel masks should be an accessory just like the hair. It keeps everything consistent. Characters like Dr Spectrum look out of place next to a character with hair or an actual mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbofett Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Just noticed, Â tbe Spiderman has sculpted thighs. Kind of military style. With some paint, Strucker and Red Skull could get uniform upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I just want a classic 616 Medusa to go with my classic 616 Black Bolt. I'll take the animated versions, too. I just like teams that are complete and in a consistent style.  This is will be the second time DST has started The Inhumans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Spider Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Ronan The Accuser said: I should have clarified better in my last post but yes, it's classic Medusa I'm looking for. If I was interested in a modern look, this one would work for me. The way minimates are built, with a hair piece that fits on top of the base head, I personally feel masks should be an accessory just like the hair. It keeps everything consistent. Characters like Dr Spectrum look out of place next to a character with hair or an actual mask. Thanks I'll never look at non slipovers the same again :/ You still think/feel this way about Spider-Man characters without slipovers? On blackbolt it absolutely looks ridiculous because he needs a protruding tuning fork but it didn't bother me as much with masks like spidey's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvenproofBug6 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The Scarlet Spider said: Thanks I'll never look at non slipovers the same again :/ You still think/feel this way about Spider-Man characters without slipovers? On blackbolt it absolutely looks ridiculous because he needs a protruding tuning fork but it didn't bother me as much with masks like spidey's I think it's more so when a face can be seen under the mask. A slipover mask adds more depth than non-slipover masks. Edited July 15, 2017 by OvenproofBug6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan The Accuser Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Spidey sort of gets a pass because I never really have him standing next to anyone. I've always got him hanging upside down or swinging above. He and Jessica Spider-Woman are the only spider characters I display. I did think Iron Spidey and 2099 had small heads. Didn't an older Spidey come with an all blue slipover? May have to dig that out and see if it could work for Spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Spider Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Ronan The Accuser said: Didn't an older Spidey come with an all blue slipover? May have to dig that out and see if it could work for Spectrum. Insulated spidey. Hopefully he's not as expensive as his packaging partner. I really don't get why we haven't had a rerelease of classic electro and scorpion. I mean his daughter or a female electro was in asm not too long ago. You'd think they could have had a domino/copycat sitch with an extra chest block and head for a two in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloDelorean Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, OvenproofBug6 said: I think it's more so when a face can be seen under the mask. A slipover mask adds more depth than non-slipover masks. This. Both Captain Britains look wrong to me, as do the slipover Spideys and Deadpools. There are exceptions. Destiny and Insulated Spider-Man work because their masks are bulkier, and Avengers #1 Giant-Man and Goliath have bigger heads. I'd prefer it if Speed Demon had a sculpted mask (especially since then you could swap his head out for a comic accurate one), but it doesn't bother me that much because his mask is skintight. Edited July 16, 2017 by BuffaloDelorean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 just ordered the original Black Bolt on eBay to go with this Medusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Spider Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 57 minutes ago, Mnemosis said: just ordered the original Black Bolt on eBay to go with this Medusa I've been meaning to get an extra of him so I can try to make a QC Dusk with his wings. Just haven't gotten around to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirymate Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 23 hours ago, DSTZach said: Remember, I think that most complaints of animated vs. comic are utterly ridiculous. Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 22 hours ago, stack32 said: Well, hey, thanks for the confirmation along with the insult. Sorry if you are insulted by my opinion. I have stated it before. I was surprised when you thought I was talking about some second Medusa and not the Medusa we just announced. I'm sure we'll see more Inhumans in some form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhonez Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 On 7/15/2017 at 6:28 AM, DSTZach said: I meant this Medusa. Remember, I think that most complaints of animated vs. comic are utterly ridiculous. If she had green hair and blue skin, I would probably not think she was a suitable alternative, but this is Medusa to me. Not a masked villain Medusa, but she's had a lot of looks since then. No 616 Medusa planned. And it's so interesting to me how some people are pro-slip-on mask and others are not. I like both! I'm normally an apologist for animated looks as sufficient for 616, but in this case the costume is significantly different from the classic version(s). Though I'll probably buy this one & try to QC a classic look. For the record, I'll add my voice to those humbly suggesting that the Inhumans are important enough as a team to merit truly classic executions, to go along with their brethren in the Avengers, X-Men et al. They wore their classic looks for a couple decades at least, so I hope DST is able, eventually, to get to them. Even if it's a slow trickle (e.g. Black Bolt and Lockjaw). But also for the record, DST has not abandoned us fans of the classics by any means (see: wave 68, wave 69, XvBrotherhood box set...), so I'm sure with a steadily decreasing target list of bronze age Marvels, we'll eventually see these 'mates.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Inhumans may be important, but until recently, they were not particularly well-known, except individually, in connection with other groups: Black Bolt/Illuminati, Medusa/Frightful Four, Crystal/Fantastic Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvenproofBug6 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, BuffaloDelorean said: This. Both Captain Britains look wrong to me, as do the slipover Spideys and Deadpools. There are exceptions. Destiny and Insulated Spider-Man work because their masks are bulkier, and Avengers #1 Giant-Man and Goliath have bigger heads. I'd prefer it if Speed Demon had a sculpted mask (especially since then you could swap his head out for a comic accurate one), but it doesn't bother me that much because his mask is skintight. There is clearly a pretty blurred line for what I consider to look good/bad in terms of slipover vs. non-slipovers. I agree completely about Capt. Britain, the one with slipover looks like his head is too big. The one without slipover looks like his head is too small. I think this a perfect example of where a molded mask comes in. There are plenty of great examples of molded masks/helmets that I think look excellent in the minimates range; Pyro, Avalanche, Captain America (except for Bucky Cap in LCS 25), Cyclops, Wolverine (except for the FA version in TRU 22), Iron Fist, Daredevil etc. I think there's also a point that  mates with masks and hair typically look better with a regular  head with mask, and then a hair accessory over that, examples include; White Tiger (Angela), Moonstone, and Captain Mar-Vell. There are also lots of slipover masks that I think have worked well but particularly on fully masked heroes/villains where a regular head could also be used as a mask; Spider-Man, Deadpool, FA Iron Man. I think the best example (and clear improvement by DST on this point) is the difference between LCS 29 Hydra Agent and  LCS 54 Hydra Elite. The molded mask does the Hydra Agent much more justice here than a slipover, plus it still gives us an option for a classic look underneath (something the wave 29 version also did). Edited July 16, 2017 by OvenproofBug6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloDelorean Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 1 hour ago, OvenproofBug6 said: There is clearly a pretty blurred line for what I consider to look good/bad in terms of slipover vs. non-slipovers. I agree completely about Capt. Britain, the one with slipover looks like his head is too big. The one without slipover looks like his head is too small. I think this a perfect example of where a molded mask comes in. There are plenty of great examples of molded masks/helmets that I think look excellent in the minimates range; Pyro, Avalanche, Captain America (except for Bucky Cap in LCS 25), Cyclops, Wolverine (except for the FA version in TRU 22), Iron Fist, Daredevil etc. I think there's also a point that  mates with masks and hair typically look better with a regular  head with mask, and then a hair accessory over that, examples include; White Tiger (Angela), Moonstone, and Captain Mar-Vell. There are also lots of slipover masks that I think have worked well but particularly on fully masked heroes/villains where a regular head could also be used as a mask; Spider-Man, Deadpool, FA Iron Man. I think the best example (and clear improvement by DST on this point) is the difference between LCS 29 Hydra Agent and  LCS 54 Hydra Elite. The molded mask does the Hydra Agent much more justice here than a slipover, plus it still gives us an option for a classic look underneath (something the wave 29 version also did). 11 I agree with all of these examples except slipover Spidey and Deadpool. They don't look awful, but I think they'd work better just painted on. It makes them look less bobblehead-y. FA Iron Man (and all other slipover IMs) make sense to me because he's wearing an armoured helmet, not a skintight mask. Homecoming Iron Man's painted on mask looks too small to me. ANAD Iron Man has a bit of this too, but if any armour could get away it, it'd be ANAD. It's a little annoying that Ironheart didn't keep the style consistent with her helmet, but I guess she needed more space for her hair than Tony did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMiracle Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 21 hours ago, MisterPL said: I just want a classic 616 Medusa to go with my classic 616 Black Bolt.  Yep.  :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Iron Fist looks more like Ham Fist..... & ............ Spidey ? He perhaps could have given Buster Posey sleepless nights...... if he could crouch 20 hours ago, BuffaloDelorean said: This. Both Captain Britains look wrong to me, as do the slipover Spideys and Deadpools. There are exceptions. Destiny and Insulated Spider-Man work because their masks are bulkier, and Avengers #1 Giant-Man and Goliath have bigger heads. I'd prefer it if Speed Demon had a sculpted mask (especially since then you could swap his head out for a comic accurate one), but it doesn't bother me that much because his mask is skintight. Both Captain Britains look wrong ...........however...... try placing the slip-over from the W31 version onto the Excalibur version   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessex Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) On 7/15/2017 at 6:37 AM, Gillbob316 said: Honest to god, I genuinely thought that Abomination was "Ultimate" Green Goblin until I read otherwise. Yeah - i thought the same thing too, and didn't realise it wasn't until I read people mentioning the confusion. Goes to show that you should actually read the article and not just look at the pictures like i did. LOL. Medusa's hair sculpt is great. I'm eager to see some more pics of her. I think there's enough detail in her costume to almost pass for a comic book version, so I'll happily buy her and display her until the royal family gets the full 616 treatment. Seriously though - that hair sculpt is amazing, and it being a base that elevates her off the ground is exactly what i was hoping it would do. A+ Edited July 17, 2017 by Nessex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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