Mnemosis Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hmmm... they DID just get Falcon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicidewatch Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Total guessing on my part, but I think he's going to die. I mean someone has to, right? spoilers are out there from people who have read the script and someone is gonna die (i mean, it's Joss Whedon, OF COURSE someone is gonna die) but it ain't gonna be War Machine or Falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexion_Armando Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Rumors keep saying Pietro, but that's really stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnim zola Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I read another sites spoilers a few hours after debunking the pietro thing. However, if he did someone mentioned that the in humans used terrigon mists to bring him back in the comics, or since scarlet witch now has telekinesis and doesn't know how powerful she really is, and with no mention of probability control or reality altering powers, maybe she and the audience discover that she does at the same time and she brings him back. I figured that out because I'm Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 At this point every rumor I've read has a rumor that contradicts it. Also, a lot of this is based on an early draft, which is different from the final draft. I don't think Vision is even in the first draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Rumors keep saying Pietro, but that's really stupid I wish him a very speedy recovery . If anyone's is going to 'die' then I reckon it will be The Hulk . Hardly requires a spoiler tag because it is an inspired guess . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd go with Thor. It could be interesting if the titular character were dead for Ragnarok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbofett Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Didn't they say Hulk might join Guardians. So in theory he might somehow get launched into space, everyone thinks he's "dead". He finds his way to the Guardians. And eventually makes his way back to earth "alive" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Cap would be really interesting, too. I know it won't happen, but just think... in the comics, the Civil War ended with Cap's death. What if in the movies, it started there? Tony and Steve disagree, their disagreement gets Cap killed, and everyone who was leaning towards Steve's side is galvanized. Civil War is the story of the fallout and Bucky's eventual acceptance of the mantle by film's end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadpool Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I am seriously hoping this movie ends with Tony walking into a room and addressing a MCU version of the Illuminati (Panther, Strange, Black Bolt, Hank Pym, maybe Banner or Namor if they have secretly resolved the rights debacle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ooooooh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadpool Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just want a series of character posters for Infinity war with each member holding a different stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Two-Face Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Banner would be a nice fill-in for Reed. I;m not sure i'd want the Illuminati existing before Civil War, though. Could be interesting to see them form as a behind-the-scenes thing in the aftermath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexion_Armando Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Illuminati should be post Civil War, or even post Infinity War at best.By that time, most of the members will be introduced and ready to go, save for Namor (and Reed/Xavier for obvious reasons) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I suspect Namor has to be coming home soon, they have yet to do ANYTHING with the rights since they got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah my guess is Thor. That way Ragnarok is him literally fighting his way out of Hell to get to Asgard as Loki attempts to defend it while on the throne. Thor can also find Odin along the way, wherever he is, and we can have that scene like from the Thor relaunch where Odin decides to stay away and gives Thor the mantle of King of Asgard permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't think any of the heroes necessarily need to die to raise the stakes, the shot of Captain America trying to pull the car back onto the bridge only for the bumper to break off says there will be a substantial civilian death toll. And that's what started Civil War in the comics as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 There is an interview floating around right that basically spoils the "potential" death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Collector Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Isn't anyone else sick of the bait and switch of 'they're dead!....not really!'? I realize this is the world of comic books, but you can't watch a Marvel movie without someone 'dying', it's not like every issue of Iron Man I pick up has someone die and come back in the next issue. I just think it loses all the sense of drama. If someone dies in this movie, they need to stay dead, otherwise everyone will just shrug. Edited April 1, 2015 by UK Collector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicidewatch Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) it's Whedon's last movie for Marvel. someone's gonna die. it's gonna happen. that's how he rolls. and it's not gonna be Cap or Hawkeye or Falcon or Iron Man or Widow cuz they have all been announced for the Civil War cast. Quicksilver is just the most obvious one to kill. he's no fan favorite and doesn't have his own franchise, so he's the easy one to bump off. besides, just because one of the Avengers dies in this movie doesn't mean they aren't gonna come back in Infinity War. i mean bringing a character back from the dead would be the MOST Marvel comics thing they've done in any of these movies. Edited April 1, 2015 by suicidewatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadpool Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) It depends on how its handled, the two most notable ones to me are Tony seemingly being dead in avengers and then groots sacrifice in guardians. Both of those had resonance past that moment, Tony had excepted he might die by taking the bomb to the portal so it's not unheard of to think his mind was simply telling him it was over, and then that experience caries on through his life, giving him panic attacks about impending alien invasion, it changes his view of the worl. Then with groot, that was a literal death, groot knew he would be giving up his life to save his friends, but he still does it, it was about the emotional impact for the plot, showing you that these criminals had gone through so much together they were willing to die for each other. Groots "resurrection" is actually more like a reincarnation, James gunn has even said this may not be the "original" groot, either way he has to go through a whole new growth cycle, still pretty costly. Yes there have been some red herring deaths that may not have been handled well, but fear of death is still a good motivation, at least for the viewers to make the emotional connection with the gravity of a situation I don't think they need to kill anyone for it to be a good story, but logically, thor, hulk or vision make thematic sense and two of them kinda need to be off the table for civil war to be a fair fight Edited April 1, 2015 by undeadpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youbastards Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Yeah, it's going to be Thor. Thor's death will help cause the rift between Cap and Iron Man for Civil War. This also accounts for why Loki and Heimdall are credited for the Age of Ultron. This will also lead to Thor: Ragnarok and Asgard learning of Loki's defeat of Odin in Dark World. Thor will be trapped in Hel, Odin will eventually return to power (thanks to Sif and the Warriors Three), setting up the final battle of Odin sacrificing himself in order to save Thor from Hela's grip! Thor defeats Surtur, Odin defeats Fenris, Heimdall defeats Loki, but Asgard is destroyed. The film will end with a familiar looking American doctor taking a pilgrimage to Norway. Edited April 1, 2015 by youbastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo487 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Joss Whedon is a very smart and talented guy, so I will trust his instincts, but if they actually did kill off Quicksilver, I think that would be incredibly shortsighted. This is a character who was just introduced, so his loss would be relatively trivial. It means something to Wanda but not to the audience, except for me because I'm a huge fan of the character. And if the two of them are what we all believe them to be in the MCU, it would be very wise to keep them around. Plus there's also the diversity they bring to the team, Joss even said in the first film that every character had either a punch or an energy blast based power. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver bring something new to the team dynamic. There's also the thought that Quicksilver's attitude, being the cocky prick that he is, would also bring something new to the team if Cap and Tony are going to be on opposite sides. Plus there's also the notion that if they kill the character in this, they basically give the character completely to Fox, and you know Marvel has no interest in making them happy. Edited April 1, 2015 by Valo487 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosis Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Wait... what if they kill Vision... And he comes BACK as Wonder Man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini nugget Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Potential spoilers although I question the validity of the story. So a guy did a talk at my school a little while ago (sadly his name escapes me), he's an underwater cameraman and was telling us about working on Age Of Ultron. He said the only scene he worked on was with Thor, I assumed it was the bit with him in the sort of cave surrounded by water that we see in the trailer. Anyway, he told us that while during this scene Thor ended up losing an arm, which was difficult to film. This made sense to me what with Thor having lost an arm recently in comics, I believe. I did consider that he might've been lying, the guy was bit of a character. But he didn't seem all that knowledgable on the subject enough to make a joke about it, his wife even had to remind him the name of the film. So anyway, if this is true then something is certainly going to happen to Thor though not necessarily death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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