karamazov80 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Is that how they got Nimoy back on board with Star Trek? Funny if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 The first Trek movie was supposed to be a TV series. Nimoy was done with TV so he passed. Another actor was cast as a Vulcan science officer. Then Paramount decided to make a movie and Nimoy got a bigger payday and a larger role. But he insisted on being killed off in the sequel. But Spock's a fan favorite so the studio said, "Hey, we'd REALLY like you back. What if we let you direct the next flick and your role as Spock amounts to a cameo at the end?" That's how Nimoy got his start as a feature film director. I'm sure Marvel could lure Evans to stick around under similar circumstances if they really wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr baghead Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 MisterPL, on 17 Oct 2014 - 08:18, said: With both Bucky and Falcon established in the MCU, either (or both) could take the mantle for a while. I’m gonna throw this idea out there:Black Widow takes over for Steve while Chris Evans takes a break/gets recast. That way Captain America 4 can be the female Superhero movie everyone wants so badly, it can play with the themes of redemption and being a spy not a soldier set up in Avengers, ScarJo can get a bigger pay check which will keep her around for a few more years, they can introduce Yelena as the replacement Black Widow, it would be different from the status quo as a way of saying “the movies aren’t going to be 100% like the comicbooks” and allow them more room for character changes... it won’t happen, but I think it’s better to let a character we’ve seen in 4 (possibly 5 if she’s in Cap3 as well) movies become the temporary mantle holder so they can grow rather then a character we’ve seen in 1 (maybe 2? it doesn’t sounds like either of them are in A2:AoU and I’d be surprised if they showed up in Cap3 or A3 given how overstuffed they’re already going to be) just because that character was Cap in the comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 That works for me. In terms of female characters, Black Widow's probably the most viable one they've got at the moment. Although I'd love to see She-Hulk get a shot. Marvel's first chick-flick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Pretty hard for me to imagine a Russian, and former Russian spy for the KGB no less, suiting up as "Captain America." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Pretty hard for me to imagine a Russian, and former Russian spy for the KGB no less, suiting up as "Captain America." Works about as well as a brainwashed secret evil cabal assassin. ... Honestly I think Barton deserves his chance in the spotlight. If they don't go Bucky, give it to Clint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Well in one case it's someone who had no real control over their actions, vs. another where one person purposefully acted against the U.S.'s interests. But I guess you are right in that this guy would always seem a bit unstable and frightening. In the comics, they got around this by making his memory and personality fix more permanent using the Cosmic Cube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkerbean Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Pretty hard for me to imagine a Russian, and former Russian spy for the KGB no less, suiting up as "Captain America." As long at it zips up at the front & is tight, I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think something like that can be arranged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr baghead Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Pretty hard for me to imagine a Russian, and former Russian spy for the KGB no less, suiting up as "Captain America."That's part of the “redempetion” theme I was talking about. She’s clearly one of Steve’s must trust allies, so HE can see the good in her even if the rest of the world (and maybe even she) can't, so she has to overcome her past to live up to the ideals set by set Steve (I guess it’d sort of be like when Punisher was Cap, but with Black Widow instead)... plus you can make the connection that America claims to be a standard of justice but has a shakey past of being a just country (and maybe presently so if you want to go there) so really Black Widow as Captain America represents the truth while Steve Rogers as Captain America represents the ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkerbean Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Needs cleavage! But I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Harris Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I can still imagine them using the Civil War idea for the MCU. Basicly it's the whole Watchmen/Dark Knight Returns idea and that could work pretty well. The using-secret-identities-thing just added another aspect to the basic conflict. But the idea of people asking the government to controll sups is a plausible thing (just look at NY after Avengers 1). Just add a Hulk rampage and some conerservative media hysteria and ta-da! And I don't think they already burned all the bridges for somthing like this. After all we've seen I can still imagine Iron Man and Cap leading the two groups just in the way they did in the comics. Iron Man is against governmantal restrictions, but he is also clever enough to see that getting legal would be the only possible way to stay "active". He wouldn't trust the government completely (and we all know why), but he sees this to be the only possibility. Cap on the other side is already skeptical and can easily make the shift from being rather nationalistic to being more (constitutional) patriotic, as he did in the comics. I can easily imagine him leading a resistance group. I can also easily imagine him getting shot down in the end of the story line... (For me, CW was one of the best modern plots in the Marvel comics. But I don't really read much Marvel.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkerbean Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 You know if in the future when they have to recast iron man watching Brandon Rouths portrayal of Ray Palmer in arrow I can't help but see a Tony Stark in there, just needs some facial hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Its a rumor, and a bad one. It's not a roomahh. Marvel just announced it with this logo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENIME_art Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Well, I mean, it's not like Bucky ever took up the mantle of Cap after he returned as Winter Soldier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnim zola Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 ugh, I really didnt like the comic story, or the ultimate alliance 2 video game adaption of the story. I wonder if they are going to do a secret invasion after the universe gets Thanosed in the infinity war movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I get the impression that this Civil War will not be an adaptation of the comic story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yeah, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to follow the comic too closely, so I'm assuming they'll take a number of liberties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowlar Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Digging this thread back up. The other night while fighting a case of insomnia I had realized that the Time infinity gem hasn't surfaced yet. So, what if Civil War literally means Cap gets time shifted back to the Civil War, finds the time gem, and sets himself as protector until the Avengers can retrieve it and his shield in the future leading to another found gem and the need for a new Captain? It would be worth it just to see characters like Phantom Rider, Red Wolf, and the Rawhide Kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Digging this thread back up. The other night while fighting a case of insomnia I had realized that the Time infinity gem hasn't surfaced yet. So, what if Civil War literally means Cap gets time shifted back to the Civil War, finds the time gem, and sets himself as protector until the Avengers can retrieve it and his shield in the future leading to another found gem and the need for a new Captain? It would be worth it just to see characters like Phantom Rider, Red Wolf, and the Rawhide Kid. That would be amusing but I think the Time Gem is gonna be in Ragnarok since Thor might have to undo a death or two. And the Soul Gem would be in Strange because that just makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadpool Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 annnd we have our first official promo art for Captain America: Civil War Cap vs Ironman both sporting new looks A better look at Ironman's new bleeding edge inspired armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The armor keeps looking leaner, more form-fitting. I remember arguing that the only way to do a truly comic-accurate Wonder Woman costume was to make it CG. With the way it hugs her body and needs to be metallic yet flexible, it seemed the best way to approach it would be to render it digitally. That discussion wasn't too long ago. We're getting more and more CG costumes these days. Back in the 20th century we had Kirk Alyn as Superman ducking behind a bush only to emerge from it as a Fleisher-animated Man of Steel. We're still using the same techniques but using CGI instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexion_Armando Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Apparently Martin Freeman is cast in this now, so I'd imagine him as Wong or Baron Mordo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Apparently Martin Freeman is cast in this now, so I'd imagine him as Wong or Baron Mordo. Man, him and Cumberbatch just can't stay away from each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youbastards Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Can you blame either one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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