DSTZach

I think we'll have SDCC Transformers, Young Avengers, GI Joe Series 2, TMNT Blimp, AEW Series 1 and the Young Bucks 2-pack. (Our restock of TMNT blimp just arrived.) Plus the Britt Baker Vinimate. 

Great! The main Diamond warehouse still doesn't have them, but Ent Earth and BBTS get their shipments direct from China, I think, or at least the port of Los Angeles. I see that BBTS has them, but EE still says pre-order. Hopefully Luke and the other retailers get theirs soon. 

20 hours ago, spidermatt said:

I know this is an AEW thread. But could dst get a WCW or WWF license? It'd be cool to get classic wrestlers like the Iron Sheik or the Junkyard Dog. 😁 or have these licenses already been discussed?

It would probably depend on Mattel's WWE license. If they are a MASTER TOY LICENSEE, then they may have total control over what competing products are made. 

18 hours ago, AugieWargo said:

First the Britt Baker Vinimate looks way better than in the photos.

Jay Lethal kind of makes sense. His accomplishments in ROH way outshine his current run in AEW.  Are ROH wrestlers off the table?  Both companies are owned by Tony Khan and featured on AEW tv. 

Would 3 packs ever be an option with AEW featuring so many trios tag teams? 

I know they own ROH, but I would not be able to tell you who is currently with ROH that is not on the AEW roster. There are so many ex-ROH in the upper echelons of AEW that we should probably get to first. And I doubt a ROH-branded line would do nearly as well as the AEW line. 

16 hours ago, THE_CRIPPLER said:

Well Jade Cargill is off the table now. She is apparently done with AEW and heading to WWE. Her Minimate would have been great too. Oh well, I hope she does good in WWE

WHAT? Man, that stinks. 

9 hours ago, hellpop said:

WCW is owned by WWE, so that's not going to happen. I assume that DST's license is much like Jakks, in that they can do older looks for wrestlers from outside their WWE days (like they could do a young Chris Jericho from very early in his career). Theoretically I suppose they could sign old wrestlers to merch contracts and produce some kind of a Legends of Wrestling line, but I can't see how that would be cost effective.

Luke did a whole series of custom WWF Minimates; you should look at that thread if you haven't. That's as close as you're probably going to get I'm afraid.

I don't know if Jazwares has to deal directly with the talent to license their old, unowned looks, or if AEW handles all of that through their overarching agreements with each wrestler. But Jazwares puts out a lot more product than we do, and they need to have new versions of the biggest stars on the pegs at mass retail on a regular basis, otherwise they'd just have a bunch of Nyla Roses and Lance Archers hanging out. 

With our pre-ordering system, and no mass presence, we'd probably want to focus on new characters in their most up-to-date looks, especially when looks get updated on a regular basis. Sure, maybe there are some popular wrestlers we could revisit once or twice, but much has been made here and elsewhere about the depth of the roster, so I imagine a new character would sell better than any repeat. Although when we make Luchasaurus we will need to make green AND red flavors. 

6 hours ago, nandoninny said:

i'm reading that the new Image/skybound reboot of GI JOE and Transformers is getting lotsa orders.

anyway to cash in on that?

Robert Kirkman once published some free pages for Terry Moore's Rachel Rising (great book) for free just because he was a fan.  i love that kind of enthusiasm.

if i need to write him a letter to suggest this to his team just let me know.

We actually talk to Robert (or his team) all the time, we are currently making Invincible AND Walking Dead action figures for them.

And a high-selling comic book is great -- unfortunately, the company that distributes the comic is the same one that distributes our toys. So if they can't get the stores that are ordering the comics to also order the toys, then I don't know how else to take advantage of that. I guess advertise in it? 

To be honest, I wouldn't have thought of Jay Lethal before this past weekend, when I watched an old ROH DVD where he and Strong teamed up to take on the Briscoes and ReDragon. (Not sure I want Satnam Singh, Jeff Jarrett or Sonjay Dutt, though.) Lethal is only a medium-level player in AEW, but I would like to include more diversity in the line, so I was thinking either him or Keith Lee, who I like a lot, although Swerve and Hobbs are probably better choices.

If I'm getting too far down the roster, I suppose I would go back up the ladder to Samoa Joe. He's a pretty big player, and I like what I've heard about him backstage.

Maybe we could do a Heels set, with MJF, Samoa Joe, Saraya and either Jade Cargill or Ruby Soho!

Jamie Hayter is an oversight. She's great. 

My preference:

SERIES 3: MJF, Danhausen, Saraya/Toni Storm (whoever's champion at time of greenlight), Jade Cargill

SERIES 4: Hikaru Shida, Ruby Soho, Jay Lethal, Bryan Danielson (although I hear he's retiring?)

Two-packs: The Acclaimed, FTR

2 hours ago, Navaan said:

Direct to consumer. Hasbro did this with Joe (on card backs, but still). 

Sell some to stores with boxes, but sell others, DTC, but in bags?

To clarify, I doubt we ourselves would sell Joe MM direct to consumer, unless we're talking non-exclusive inventory that was also offered to retailers, like Sets 1 and 2. If we had confidence in an exclusive Joe set just for OUR website, we would have done it already; the new-ish DST store is still building its customer base. No, this would only work if we had a retail partner with a dedicated, invested customer base, be it Pulse or Luke or someone else. And I doubt Pulse would sell clear bagged Minimates, I don't even know if WE would. In fact, the more I think about it, the more problematic bags get. An inexpensive blister card might be the best way to go. 

I wasn't even thinking blind bags, especially if this was an online retailer. I just figured if a store was selling the figures to people who were going to open them and make 'em fight, packaging was secondary, so why not put each of them in a clear poly bag. Just a thought. Might encourage purchasing multiples if they're cheaper, or DIScourage them because there are no packaging variations to keep MIB. Again, a 50-50 situation might be a good idea, half blistered, half bagged, if such a thing were possible.

I honestly do believe that Joe Mates would have done better before ReAction came around, even better before Ultimates came around, and they would have conquered the market before Classified came around. Even our Dioramas and those other terrible statues that Gamestop sells probably eat into the fan base. 

Devil's advocate, but if the Minimates were NOT individually carded, and were done on a blister and sold at $30 per set, that's $90,000. Licensing fees are not passed along to the retailer, they are included in the price. The regular Diamond wholesale discount is around 40%. So an investment of $54,000 plus shipping would get you a profit of $36,000 upon sellout. Break-even would be at 1,800 units sold. Not sure about my math, but that seems correct. I suppose if a retailer charged more than SRP, the profit would be greater, and the time to break-even would be faster. 

Just thinking out loud.

Less likely, but if some kind of packaging split of blisters and boxes was done, that might encourage even more multiple purchases. Not sure if an even simpler packaging option is popular, but if you're just getting them for army-building, then maybe bags would be an option. 

I had no idea Abadon was still on the roster. I want a zombie girl wrestler Minimate. 

I thought BHM and I were having a serious, open, public, honest discussion -- I'm not ignoring him, but sorry if I seem dismissive.

Of course, now BHM is telling me he's not actually serious. Unless you mean you're just not serious about the UK? In which case you WOULD probably need to work with a US retailer. I know one who's done exclusives in the past, and may welcome a co-investor -- I can share contact info, but I'm sure you have it.

As far as production runs go, I honestly can't speak to how many assortments/individual two-packs of each series we made for TRU and Walgreens. With all of the shared item codes and rolling inventory, I doubt I would have been able to figure it out from the inventory reports I received. (BHM probably knows better from all the cases he's seen.) Were some less than 3000? Maybe, and that's certainly not ideal, but if a series was part of a larger, more in-depth partnership, I'm sure that was taken into consideration. 

But as far as I know, TRU and Walgreens did not pick their characters. Aside from saying "we want Animated" or "we want this movie," we gave them the  characters we thought would do best for them -- for better or for worse. (They MAY have expressed concern if the individual buyer saw a character or theme on the line plan they had no confidence in, but at this price point I doubt it -- these aren't $25 Marvel Legends.) If an independent retailer wants a one- off set, it would still have to fit into our line plan -- characters we think will sell in that market, fit in with what has come before, and are what Marvel or Hasbro will allow. The tooling investment for new characters is too great to have it dictated by others, not to mention the man-hours it takes to design, sculpt, tool, hours taken away from other projects. And buying the whole run doesn't change anything -- not to say we know best, but we don't want any retailer that supports Minimates to make a calamitous error in judgment. 

Not sure what to say about the rest of those guys, they were different situations, different markets, hell, different decades. Target helped launch the line, but I doubt they cared who was in the wave besides Spider-Man and X-Men. Chef Duff was a marketing opportunity. Goth Girl was a promo done for a friend. AFX had the Thundercats license, so they called the shots -- if you mean their Marvel exclusives, I'm sure we presented options, but most of their SDCC exclusive sets were pre- planned companions to ours. Surprised you didn't mention the Disney Store -- they outright ASKED us to make the Peter Pan 'Mates, and I'm pretty sure they wanted some Avengers comic sets, but we probably pitched them on the Future Foundation. 

And Vinimates... again, I'm not sure how many of each character we made for Walgreens (some were shared with specialty) or what our minimum (feasible) order quantity is (probably less than Minimates), but most of our 250-piece runs for cons have been repaints or at least tooling re-use. (The tooling we can re-use is very narrow, it's not like mixing and matching Minimates.) If any retailer or quaint Briton wants an exclusive Vinimate repaint that's NOT Marvel, I will happily start that convo. I'd love to do Vinimate blanks, since the custom possibilities are endless, but very few of our Vinimates are without added sculptural details. 

I am not the designer, but I would vote chest cover for Keith Lee and Samoa Joe and probably NO chest cover for Cage. Just how I see it. 

The next Vinimate has been designed, not sure about approved.  Won't be ready for NYCC, but could lead to a cool signing at SDCC.

I think they are now in the web store warehouse and should ship soon to those customers. Not seeing them in our main warehouse yet. 

On 7/24/2023 at 6:48 PM, DSTZach said:

We did not cut Echo because she was a female and/or indigenous. We dropped her because she was expensive, lots of tooling and lots of tampo. Lots of extra parts so she could turn into Ronin. If we're going to lower the price of Marvel packs to satisfy complaints, we need to cut costs.

She will be released eventually, just not in this set. 

Daredevil will come with a D-Man mask, hopefully that counts for some people. 

Echo WILL be released, just need to figure out where. Not gonna tell people to stop customizing her, it may be a little while. Next two sets are NOT New Avengers, at this time.

That's the tricky part, I want to make everybody. Picking and choosing is tough. BUT I want to include more female wrestlers, like Toni Storm, Black wrestlers, like Keith Lee, or both, like Jade Cargill. The line is overwhelmingly white and male so far. 

Sting and Darby are prototyped. Waiting to see when and where we offer them. We're talking to AEW.

Not sure why we are limiting purchases online at all, especially for Minimates. I'll ask them to stop. As far as I know, we are not worried about scalpers at all, it may just be a holdover from some exclusive products on the Gentle Giant LTD site, which was a template for the new DST site. We are not worried about people buying product from us at retail prices and reselling it for more money, unless it's something highly limited that could be perceived as unfairly hoarded by others. 

But I don't think we ever "put all the Minimates in the TRU basket," at least not on purpose. We always offered an exclusive character or variant or even two-pack in the specialty wave, as far as I recall, at least as far as Marvel went. We wanted specialty stores to order product, and have product that was their own. TRU wanted exclusives, sure, but they never asked for exclusivity. Ditto Walgreens -- even though we gave them Animated Mates exclusively, I recall multiple specialty-exclusive movie Minimates, and it was Walgreens support for the line that kept those alive for a while longer, alongside some comic sets. (In addition to TRU AND Walgreens assortments, Ragnarok had the specialty box set with two exclusive figures, for instance.)

The final Walgreens movie sets ended up largely overseas because that was who bought it when Walgreens gave it up. I don't know that overseas retailers were targeted, they just happened to be two popular movie sets with global appeal, as opposed to US-based animation or comics. Nothing to read into it, except that movie sets were not doing well with US retailers at the time, so that may have been part of it. 

And yeah, we'd probably only make an exclusive for a licensed reseller. I don't think they'd need to have a history with our distributor (Diamond Comics), but they would need to have a sales outlet. To be honest, I'm not sure we still have the rights to sell Minimates in the UK anyway, so it may be moot. 

I am actively trying to get more retailers to carry GI Joe Minimates, be they Adventure Team or Real American Hero or even Action Man. Fingers crossed. 

Well, we're down to the two shows a year (plus SW Celebration and NY Toy Fair) so that sounds about right. We've already started talking about Minimates options for SDCC.

Outside of Comic-Con, hopefully we'll be offering the new Joe sets soon, after the AEW ring on Sept 22 and Marvel Series 85 on or around October 20.

3 hours ago, nandoninny said:

if its ARAH related i may need to go fly there in person to pick up a set or 3.

not likely, but i'd like to.

What is this in regards to?

We are not doing an exclusive for NYCC, not sure where that was mentioned. We are not even doing a Vinimate.

We may show Marvel 85 in person at Toy Fair, but I doubt we will reveal 86 at NYCC.

Excalibur and the ring go up for pre-order on 9/22.

We're talking about who will be in Series 3.

Series 2 sold out, but I think it was because we made less in response to Series 1 sales. I'm not sure of the status of the license,  but we did make a Boom Green Ranger Gallery,  and others have been discussed. 

Where did you read that? They are not canceled, we had to change the price due to unexpected high manufacturing costs, and resolicit. Then there was an inexplicable delay. They should arrive this fall. 

I do not believe these are in our warehouse yet, but if they are sold out, I might not see it. 

Oh, there'll be a booth, I just won't be at it all weekend. NY Toy Fair is two weeks before, so press appointments will be slim. And don't worry about missing the panel, I'm sure a pic of Series 85 will leak. 

Yes. Not every day, but most days.  Panel is Thursday at noon, tentatively.