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Shame we didn't get Vega, Dhalsim, or Balrog, and in their place we ended up with Rufus and Abel
I know an angry mob might chase me out of the forum for saying this but I am going to say it anyway. I like the Rufus minimate. There, I said it. He may not have been one of the ones I would have chosen, given the limited run this line had, but I am happy with him.
Also, as a SF character completist, I am always happy when they make any character that isn't one of the SF2 characters because I can see all the SF2 characters getting released someday due to their popularity but Rufus, for example, was more of a longshot.
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Yeah I don't think we're getting a third wave out of this series. I'm just wishlisting, and still hoping for an all encompassing Capcom Classics line.
More Street Fighter, Final Fight, Mega Man (Original, X and Legends), Strider, Darkstalkers, Resident Evil, Captain Commando, Dino Crisis, Ace Attorney, Ghosts 'N Goblins, Rival Schools, Power Stone etc.
I wouldn't mind if they covered some other Capcom series. I just hope that if they cover Street Fighter again, it will be a Street Fighter only line. All three times Street Fighter Minimates were produced, they were watered down by being mixed with something else. If they create a general Capcom line, we will most likely only get Ryu and Chun Li again and few others.
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Thing is with your list, you could honestly remove Ryu, Ken, Chun Li, Guile, Zangief, Sagat, C. Viper, Rufus, Abel, Hugo, and Cammy as they've already got nice modern minimates.
I figured that if they ever release SF minimates again, it would not be for a little while as the SFxT line is still too recent. (it is still happening) Plus, if there is any chance of getting a new SF line off the ground, it would have to include the most popular characters. That's why they made Ryu and Chun Li again even though they were recently released in the Marvel vs Capcom sets.
You also left off my main Dudley .
Oops. I figured Alex, Ibuki, and Dudley to be the most popular SF3 characters and I intended Dudley to be in the 3rd set but I forgot to put him there. Oh well. Like you said, these would probably have to be mixed up differently because there are too few people who know the less popular SF3 characters. Perhaps a UK set including Dudley, Eagle, Cammy, and Birdie would be more balanced with popular and less known charactes.
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Let me elaborate on what I think would be a good Street Fighter line:
Released in 4 figure sets perhaps
World Warriors pt 1
Ryu
E Honda
Zangief
Dhalsim
World Warriors pt 2
Ken
Chun Li
Blanka
Guile
Shadaloo
Balrog
Vega
Sagat
M. Bison
The New Challengers
Cammy
Fei Long
Dee Jay
T. Hawk
Alpha pt 1
Charlie
Adon
Gen
Rose
Alpha pt 2
Sakura
Birdie
R. Mika
Dan
Metro City
Guy
Cody
Rolento
Sodom
SF3 pt 1
Alex
Hugo
Elena
Oro
SF3 pt 2
Ibuki
Makoto
Necro
Urien
SF3 pt 3
Yun
Yang
Q
Gill
SF4 pt 1
Abel
C Viper
El Fuerte
Rufus
SF4 pt 2
Juri
Hakan
Gouken
Seth
SF5?
The obvious ones are at the top. If it was successful enough, it could eventually have enough fanbase to get to the more obscure SF3 characters etc... or, as much as I hate to say it, they could mix in alternate versions of more pupular characters. I think they do that with Marvel? Oh well, I doubt this would happen anytime soon after the SFxT releases but it's fun making lists...
By the way, I am a big fan of Karin from SF Alpha but she is not owned by Capcom and would probably be a licensing nightmare, hence the reason I skipped her.
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DST is still a business though, they can't turning them out to "hope" that the line will eventually catch fire and rock. A lot of people mentioned their shops not ordering them, and they haven't necessarily been hard to acquire elsewhere, and we would usually have heard they'd have something in the cards for Toy Fair by now (excluding Walking Dead but that's fairly obvious they do).
I think you just proved my point though; there's no market for them and even fans of the game aren't buying them. Regardless of the reason, if the SF/Tekken fans themselves won't pick them up, then they're failing.
(And keep in mind, the years-old Street Fighter line failed too.)
I don't disagree. I hadn't heard any news about the sales of SFxT minimates but like I said, I am not surprised if they didn't perform well. Any fanbase needs time to grow. I bet even Marvel minimates and minimates in general took time to gather a fanbase. I just want them to attempt an SF line that doesn't have what I consider to be a drawback. The SF2 line did not look too good to me and it was watered down with Darkstalkers characters for some reason which was a little confusing for a supposed SF line. There were a few SF characters included in Marvel vs Capcom but once again, not a very good line for SF collectors. Now we have SFxT which is based on a game that a lot of the target audience was not happy with and once again not pure SF.
I just want a SF line that is pure SF and timed/licensed correctly. If it did moderately well, (at least enough to make a profit) I would like to see them try sticking with it long enough to build up a SF minimate fanbase. I wouldn't expect them to stick with it if it was a complete failure. DST must have some interest in SF. They keep coming back to it. I just want them to do it right and at least give it the best chance of being successful.
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I would think Capcom was the problem. Marvel is what sold and carried the MvC3 line and that died, and then Capcom had to carry the even more obscure Tekken (not that Tekken is obscure, but less popular than Capcom) and the two together just couldn't sell.
Fairly certain Capcom would be a tough sell by itself; i also don't think DST could get an all-inclusive Capcom license for cheap without a VS game. Keep in mind, we didn't just get any Capcom character, we got the ones from one specific game. It's different.
I am not sure how much a minimates release has to sell to be successful. I would think it would be on a smaller scale than say a LEGO release. If that is the case, I would think that the Street Fighter/Capcom fanbase would be enough to make these successful... if you can reach them. Most minimates fans are probably Marvel fans. For SF minimates to be a success, they would have to reach new buyers, not just Marvel fans who happen to be SF fans. It would probably take time and multiple releases to build up a Street Fighter/Minimates fan base. It is a little dissapointing, however, when new lines keep getting started and then ended too soon.
Another issue, that I mentioned before, is that SFxT was not received well by some in the fighting game community for various reasons. There was a post about the SFxT minimates on Eventhubs (a fighting game website) and one of the commenters accused Capcom of releasing SFxT minimates just to milk even more money out of the game. Nevermind the fact that the poster was completely wrong about who manufactures minimates, but it shows some of the attitude towards this game and Capcom right now.
I still think they missed the ball by not releasing SF4 minimates. I think it would have been a lot more successful, though I still haven't even heard any official word on how well SFxT minimates have sold.
Let me also point out that the pre-orders for the first two Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Play Arts action figures are selling out on some sites already at $65 a piece. Is it a good time to get a TTT2 license?
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llama - The latest ask DST said that Wave 3 is no longer on the cards.
I just looked at the recent ask DST entries. I see the part that says they have no plans for series three but I never thought they had a series 3 planned yet. That still leaves open the possbiility depending on how series 2 does, but I guess it does seem unlikely.
I guess it would just be another of many short-lived SF lines. Sota was the best. I hope the play arts line sticks around for awhile but at $50-$60 each and only four releases a year, it would take over a decade and a lot of money to get to the obscure characters.
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Why have you guys given up hope for series 3? Was there some bad news about sales? I never heard anything.
If this line does do badly, I hope they still consider a Street Fighter only line. (Tekken also) Everytime SF characters are released they are mixed with something else. First, Darkstalkers, then some SF characters showed up in Marvel vs. Capcom. Now we have SF with Tekken. Even though I love the Tekken characters and want more, perhaps a more focused line would do better. I wish they would have jumped on the SF4 bandwagon when the game came out. That game did very well.
I think now that Tekken Tag Tournement 2 is out, it might be a good time to get a Tekken only line going.... The Evo fighting game tournement is in July. It would be a good time to make an announcement and/or release an exclusive etc...
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Buy Series 2 like crazy, and hopefully the line is so explosively successful Series 3 spontaneously generates:
I preordered the non TRU set months ago and will buy the TRU exclusives as soon as they are available. I hope there are many others doing the same. I want all the SF and Tekken characters I can get. I hope to see series 3 and 4. Then hopefully even more SF and Tekken minimates in the future.
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I would assume that is just puffing. Not saying the first wave didn't do well, but regardless of how well it did or didn't do, I've never heard an ad like "due to the overwhelming mediocrity of the first wave" or "back by tepid demand."
I'm sure you're correct but I would still like to know how the first series performed. I guess they are not going to say it was underwhelming prior to another release but if it did well, maybe we might hear something...
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"The first assortment of Street Fighter X Tekken Minimates was such a success that we had to bring the line back for another round..."
Zach: was the first round really a success? Is a third wave back on the table? Or was that kind of a wink wink nudge nudge thing?...
Hmmm? I think they were referring to the second round. However, the second round was in the works before the first was even released so it looked like it was going to be released either way. I too would love to know the answer to the question above. Should I start getting my hopes up for more?
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I hate that I have four different white gi Ryus, but no Blanka or Honda, etc.
Maybe we will get Blanka if the SFXT line continues. Unfurtunately Honda is not in SFXT. Neither is Rose, one of my favorates who I do not believe has been made in any scale by any company. This is why I hope they can get a complete SF license and that it would be successful enough to get to some or all of the more obscure characters. They need to find more people like me who wouldn't be here (I mean collecting minimates, not existing in general) if it wasn't for the SFXT figures since I am not a Marvel fan.
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Blanka is a DLC character and judging by the number per wave (12) and number of characters in the initial roster (35), it's likely one DLC SF and one DLC Tekken character will make it in Wave 3. HOWEVER there is no guarantee Blanka will be the one chosen (I'd rather see Dudley myself), but considering he is the only SF2/mainstream SF character in the DLC roster he makes the most sense. I would recommend familiarising yourself with the game's roster so you know who to expect.
Remaining characters from the SFXT roster:
Street fighter:
Dhalsim
Ibuki
Vega
M Bison
Juri
Balrog
Akuma (already exists in recent minimate form but that didn't stop them from making another Ryu and ChunLi)
DLC
Sakura
Blanka
Guy
Cody
Elena
Dudley
Tekken
Asuka
Paul
Law
Bob
Jin
Xiaoyu
Ogre
DLC
Lars
Alisa
Bryan
Jack
Christie
Lei
There are enough characters left to make two more complete waves equal in size to the first 2 with one character to spare on each side. There are also 5 other non-tekken or SF characters in SFXT but those would probably require another license.
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I really would like to see Dead or Alive Minimates!
Yeah, Dead or Alive would be great and why stop there... Might as well throw in Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat. I hope Minimates become popular with the fighting game community.
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Got my sets in the mail yesterday from Luke, and besides the lack of extras, I think they turned out great. The flesh tones are almost matched and barely noticeable. I was worried after seeing the protos on FB. Hopefully this sold enough to see the next wave(s?)!
I would love to see more waves as well. Too bad we are limited to only the SFXT characters. I think we could only get two more waves out of SFXT. There are so many more SF and Tekken characters that I would love to see.
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Can someone please take some close up pics of Cammy and Poison? Thanks!
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As a fighting game fan who frequents fighting game sites, especially EventHubs, I have to say that the SF x Tekken name is poisoned a bit due to controvery regarding DLC and other issues with the game. I would love to see more SF and Tekken minimates. In fact, I would love see an exhaustive line that covered the entire series if possible. SF4 is still very popular and Tekken Tag tournament 2 has been wonderfully received by the community. Perhaps going for separate licenses of well received games would be the way to go or just general SF and Tekken licenses but I know nothing of how that affects cost. Making sure to reach the people on fighting game sites like Eventhubs and Shoryuken, along with official sites like capcom unity (actual advertising if possible, not just one blog post) would also help with sales I would think. Maybe even having a presence at some fighting game events like EVO would also be a good idea.
I've got so many versions of Ryu and Chun Li already. I know they are popular but I think there are a lot of people who would love to collect more obscure characters as well. Dan, Hakan, and Rose to name a few. I really want to see a collectable SF (and Tekken) line go the distance.
Regarding stands - LEGO stands have worked quite well for me. Sometimes you have to put them at an angle. They are only a few cents on bricklink.
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I would love FF minimates. Unfortunately Square has their own toy company (Play Arts) so it is unlikely they will license out to another toy company.
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I would like to see a complete Street Fighter line. We've had SF2 and SF X tekken but I would like to see complete coverage of all the characters from all games in the series.
The same goes for Tekken as well.
I would also like to see these games thoroughly covered:
Dead or Alive
Soul Calibur
Mortal Kombat
Final Fantasy
And maybe a wave or two from:
Minecraft
Elder Scrolls
Scott Pilgrim vs. the world
Street Fighter x Tekken
in TV, Movie, & Video Game Minimates
Posted · Edited by llama
The thing about this forum and Minimate fans in general is that they are mostly Marvel fans, which is obviously due to the history of Marvel Minimate releases. (^ Marvel is even seeping into this thread) For fighting game minimates to be successful, they would need to reach a new audience. I had never bought a minimate before SFxT minimates were anounced and I am not a fan of Marvel characters. They needed to reach more new people like me if they want to expand into other areas, not just the people already on this forum. For starters, these should have been available at Gamestop at least. I wonder if Gamestop refuses to sell these kinds of things? Also, a new series of videogame based minimates should coincide with the release of the game and if possible, one or two minimates could be included with purchase of the game to get people hooked. That would benefit the game maker as well by giving them a bonus to throw in. I've seen games throw in other types of figures in the past so it's not unheard of.