thereasonsy Posted January 8 Posted January 8 23 hours ago, buttheadsmate said: I would not like to be perceived as a naysayer for further GI Joe Minimates , that isn't my motive . The confirmation that "Far fewer of Series 2 were made ...." just emphasises what I'm thinking because "Series 2" is still readily available online , 2 years after it was released . If I use "Power Rangers " Minimates as a parallel example , Box set 2 of that line was also, obviously, produced in far fewer numbers than box set 1 ..... BUT are impossible to find online . It probably has more to do with the multiple purchases. After all, there were 7 characters represented in the set. Quote
buttheadsmate Posted January 8 Posted January 8 30 minutes ago, thereasonsy said: It probably has more to do with the multiple purchases. After all, there were 7 characters represented in the set. For clarification there were 7 characters in box set 3 (movie set?) , which oddly enough was released over 6 months before Box set 2 . Box sets 1 & 3 are widely available , box set 2 is scarce at best . Perhaps my reasoning is flawed , who knows ? Quote
Trekker 42 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, buttheadsmate said: For clarification there were 7 characters in box set 3 (movie set?) , which oddly enough was released over 6 months before Box set 2 . Box sets 1 & 3 are widely available , box set 2 is scarce at best . Perhaps my reasoning is flawed , who knows ? If you count the alt heads in Box Set 2 there are 7 characters. Two Reds, Blacks, Yellows, and the White. boy that sounds racist out of context. Anyway, you’d need two sets to have everyone appear next to each other in costume. Sets 1 and 3 you could get one of each and have everyone. Quote
DSTZach Posted January 8 Posted January 8 For MMPR, I think it all comes down to who pre-orders, and when people started collecting the line. If retail sales of MMPR Series 1 (which only had half the team) were weak, then retailer orders for Series 2 were going to be low. But once they were both available, everyone who passed on Series 1 wanted both, leading to a shortage of Set 2. GI Joe had, from what I hear, a different problem. Series 1 retail sales were probably weak due to character repetition and price, leading to low retailer orders of Series 2. And Series 2 still didn't sell well due to character repetition and price. Hopefully we can solve the Joe problem with new characters and a lower price. Quote
SCW Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) It's a gosh darn shame the Joe line didn't work out better, it was such a natural fit for MM. Hopefully the second go around will work out better. I still hold out hope for the AT and SJ MMs too. That said, it's also a pretty big bummer we didn't get a MMPR villain set or two. Rita, Zedd, Goldar and a Putty in a pinch would have worked or you could have expanded that out to add in a few more for a second villain set. Either way a pretty small addition to the series overall to make it feel more complete. It's one of those things where you wouldn't really need 90 other characters to be "complete" even if you could expand it further. But alas, it was not meant to be. Edited January 9 by SCW Quote
thereasonsy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/8/2025 at 12:04 PM, Trekker 42 said: If you count the alt heads in Box Set 2 there are 7 characters. Two Reds, Blacks, Yellows, and the White. boy that sounds racist out of context. Anyway, you’d need two sets to have everyone appear next to each other in costume. Sets 1 and 3 you could get one of each and have everyone. That’s exactly what I meant. :). Although it is interesting that there were less of Box 2. Now I feel greedy I got 4. 23 hours ago, SCW said: It's a gosh darn shame the Joe line didn't work out better, it was such a natural fit for MM. Hopefully the second go around will work out better. I still hold out hope for the AT and SJ MMs too. That said, it's also a pretty big bummer we didn't get a MMPR villain set or two. Rita, Zedd, Goldar and a Putty in a pinch would have worked or you could have expanded that out to add in a few more for a second villain set. Either way a pretty small addition to the series overall to make it feel more complete. It's one of those things where you wouldn't really need 90 other characters to be "complete" even if you could expand it further. But alas, it was not meant to be. The lack of Villains really bums me out but, if TMNT can resurrect itself YEARS later who knows what can happen with this line. Maybe a con exclusive with a Putty and a face for Kat. Quote
cylonchaney Posted January 10 Posted January 10 11 of 16 slots used by 4 repeated characters, so far. And no army builders for a property that is literally about two armies fighting each other. These are the two big reasons I've not bought into the line, so far. Hopefully the next offering will be of interest. Quote
thereasonsy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 19 hours ago, cylonchaney said: 11 of 16 slots used by 4 repeated characters, so far. And no army builders for a property that is literally about two armies fighting each other. These are the two big reasons I've not bought into the line, so far. Hopefully the next offering will be of interest. We’ve been told it won’t have an army builder in either wave. Also it may be the first figures of the Skybound versions which hopefully draws interest. Quote
nandoninny Posted January 12 Posted January 12 makes sense not having army builders at first. For me I think the draw was all the secondary characters. Hopefully we get some in these new sets. Stalker, rock n roll, cover girl. Same with the baddies. Then hopefully some army builders. Quote
cylonchaney Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Hopefully, they turn it into a thriving line and we get tons of unique characters, army builder, and vehicles. I, for one, would love to see Minimate deformed Joe vehicles. A Minimate HISS tank would be so cute! LOL For now I'll settle for a box set that has none of: Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, or Scarlett. Quote
buttheadsmate Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/8/2025 at 7:04 PM, DSTZach said: For MMPR, I think it all comes down to who pre-orders, and when people started collecting the line. If retail sales of MMPR Series 1 (which only had half the team) were weak, then retailer orders for Series 2 were going to be low. But once they were both available, everyone who passed on Series 1 wanted both, leading to a shortage of Set 2. 'Entertainment Earth' (link at the bottom of the page) has MMPR Series 2 up for pre-order right now Quote
buttheadsmate Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Highly likely. I have tried & will continue to try to highlight the fact that the pre-ordering of Minimates offers no real guarantees for the customer . Personally my confidence in any Minimate supplier is at an all time low &, me, keeping quiet about it isn't going to help improve things. Quote
thereasonsy Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, buttheadsmate said: Highly likely. I have tried & will continue to try to highlight the fact that the pre-ordering of Minimates offers no real guarantees for the customer . Personally my confidence in any Minimate supplier is at an all time low &, me, keeping quiet about it isn't going to help improve things. To be fair, Entertainment Earth has been a mess across several toy lines for over a decade. The only Minimates shipper I haven’t had an issue with is Luke’s. Quote
Padrino Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, thereasonsy said: To be fair, Entertainment Earth has been a mess across several toy lines for over a decade. The only Minimates shipper I haven’t had an issue with is Luke’s. I had some major issues with them as well. Same with BBTS but at least their "Pile of Loot" option makes them more user-friendly. Luke is truly the most consistent. Quote
DSTZach Posted January 13 Posted January 13 9 hours ago, buttheadsmate said: Highly likely. I have tried & will continue to try to highlight the fact that the pre-ordering of Minimates offers no real guarantees for the customer . Personally my confidence in any Minimate supplier is at an all time low &, me, keeping quiet about it isn't going to help improve things. The pre-ordering of MInimates, true, may not guarantee that a product will get MADE, if pre-orders are low and the product is cancelled (Bruce Lee, John Wick), BUT if you don't pre-order it, then that is more likely to happen. Also, your preferred supplier may not order enough for you to get a set, and other suppliers may sell out if it does better than they anticipated. If you are not ordering through a local store or one of the big e-tailers like EE, Amazon or BBTS, then you should order through Luke's or diamondselecttoys.com. Just my opinion, I don't get paid by the pre-order. Quote
luke314pi Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I appreciate the kind words! These days the only times we can't guarantee preorders is for SDCC exclusives, as the quantities we receive are unpredictable. Some years we get 100% of what we order, and then there are years like 2024 where we only got like 25% of what we ordered. We try to account for that with how many we put up for preorder, but last year's hit hard. We ended up buying sets from other stores at full price or higher and taking a loss just so we didn't disappoint as many customers. Quote
Navaan Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) Funny enough, my Minimate preorder horror story was about the original GI Joe minimates. Things From Another World. I pre-ordered the original GI Joe minimate set and apparently they marked me down for overnight shipping. I don't recall ever asking for overnight shipping but I certainly wouldn't have paid $45 for it, which is what they charged me. I'm just sitting there and I see a $90 total charge come through. I could not afford that. And I reached out to them before they had even shipped it. I sent multiple emails telling them not to send it to me, that I do not want to have overnight shipping, that I am not accepting, and I wish to cancel; there were multiple emails showing this. They got back to me like four days later after it had already shipped and said 'sorry, we shipped it' and I wasn't surprised because it took them four days to reply but they still refused to refund the overnight cost or find a resolution. I even offered to settle with them for a credit amount to their website for the cost of overnight shipping, alone, or the difference, and they refused. I offered to send the entire set back for a full refund, or even just the difference in what would have been normal shipping and offered to let them keep $15 or $20 of the $90 charge. They still refused. Even then, overnight shipping *was not overnight.* It sat in their warehouse for like, two days, and then shipped and took two days to get to me, so they didn't even get me what they charged me for. I at last threatened them with a chargeback, and they threatened me that I would have my account with them banned and could never order from them again, which at the moment I wasn't exactly having a problem with based on how terrible their customer service was and how little they seemed to care about my needs, my evidence or my truth. I gave them multiple chances to find some kind of avenue out through everything and thought I was being more than fair, offering them their product back for forty bucks back or whatever it was in credit. They stopped responding to me, so I took it to my bank and did a charge back and I won it handedly, got a full 95 dollar refund and still had the Minimates. Still. Luke is topnotch (and the moment I free up the cash, ordering three sets of the X-Men set for that sticker set, @luke314pi !!!) SERIOUSLY, Luke is the best. Order from him. Edited January 13 by Navaan Quote
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