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me and my friend are over each others house like every day, he has 360 and i have ps2. At his house i play Halo 3, Gears of War, and Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction. At my house we play Rock Band. My friend pre-ordered Mercenaries 2 and hes gonna pick it up today. I pre-ordered Rock Band 2 earlier this week. Its gonna be awesome

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I've recently gone back to playing Devil May Cry and God of War on the PS2 due to lack of interest in any of the games (until SW: The Force Unleashed is released) currently on release...

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I'm Back - Did you Miss Me?!?! :D

I just got back from a 9 day vacation in sunny Florida. It was a blast, it was Kira's first time to go to Disney and she LOVED it! Anyway, back on topic....

Right now I'm still gaming Madden and Castle Crashers quite a bit. I also picked up Viva Pinata last night, but haven't played it yet. Me and my wife are looking forward to that one, hopefully we'll be on some tonight! I also got TMNT from Gamefly so I'm trying to work through that in a rapid pace.

Are arcade games good value?

On that note has anyone bought the BSG arcade game?

Ok, first question is varried. While a came like Castle Crashers at $15 or Bionic Commando and Worms at $10 is a complete steal, there are also games like EA Fantasy Football that isn't worth a $1.50. So, they can be good values and they can be wastes of money. Of course, we all have different opinions what what good value is though. I would pay for a game like Geomotry Wars if it was the only game on the Arcade, and for some people they'd pay $50 for a retail version. The great thing about the arcade though is getting the free Trial games for every game they release. If you want to know if it's worth it, download the trial and see for yourself. Most of the time it is. And, to add further, I'm a HUGE arcade fan. I currenly own 36 titles and the Arcade is probably the main reason that I keep my Xbox (since most games are cross-platform). I honestly wish most developers would go this route and make extremely good, shorter, cheaper games for us to enjoy. Bionic Commando is a perfect example of why the Arcade is not only a good value, but a good quality too. You are getting beautiful HD graphics, a full game plus Co-Op and the potential for downloadable content in the future.....and you are getting it all for $10! I would easily pay $40 or $50 for the same game. I would love to see Sega ditch the crappy Sonic ideas and just make us HD classic Sonic games for $10 on the arcade! I'd love to see more games like Penny Arcade, where it's RPG (or action or adventure) where you have chapters to play along. I love that Capcom is bring the classic Mega Man experince (why I think it should be updated graphics, but that's another post). In all reality I would rather pay $10 or $15 for these, maybe short, but detailed and feature full editions of games rather than break my bank for a graphics porn show.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on so long, it's been a while since I posted, lol. As for Battlestar, I liked it, but I could have been much better. The came is basically Arena dogfighting. You are dropped into a space arena and you are charged with several tasks: Defeat the Cylon Ships, Defend Galactica, Escort the Transport, etc. None are too deep and there is no customization at all. There are no cut scenes or even pictures of anyone. It's basically a menu and then you are directly in the arena. That being said, I like playing, it's fun. As a big BSG fan though, I was hoping for more heart, more story. The show is about characters, I would have liked to see even text interations and side missions not from the show. But again, this is a great example of it's being an early, $10 arcade game. I would have liked to see something closers to Star Wars: Rouge Squadron, but all in all I enjoyed it. My advice is play the trial version. The whole game is just the trial version over and over with a different objective each time. If you think that would get boring fast (and it does) they I would pass. But again, this is coming from someone who bought it, so if you really like the series and like Space Battles, there are definitely worse ways to spend $10! neo

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While I was away from home last week, I played through Metal Gear Solid: the Twin Snakes again on my Wii. I really love that game. Though I don't know anything about MGS 4 (since I don't have a PS3), or where the franchise may be going from here, I hope that some future installments of the Metal Gear Series will be current generation interpretations of the original NES games. I would love to have Snake fist fighting Grey Fox in the mine field, taking on "Big Boss" in Outer Heaven, etc. in the style (gameplay and storyline-wise) that we have come accustomed to in the "Solid" series.

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Rock Band 2 is out tonight at midnight. Who's buying?

Nah, until they make a "Music Band" that is accessable to all preferences, I'll pass!! neo

I'm sure you and the my little pony fan club could all gang up and write in petitioning them for "Fairlytale lullaby band" ;)

Seriously though Neo, what they are doing caters to most preferences and it's you who is (as always) the vocal miniority, so don't get your hopes up!

Waits for the overused "you play GTA and beat up hookers" response... ;)

T.

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Rock Band 2 is out tonight at midnight. Who's buying?

Nah, until they make a "Music Band" that is accessable to all preferences, I'll pass!! neo

I'm sure you and the my little pony fan club could all gang up and write in petitioning them for "Fairlytale lullaby band" ;)

Seriously though Neo, what they are doing caters to most preferences and it's you who is (as always) the vocal miniority, so don't get your hopes up!

**begin rant**

Dude, you slay me. I wasn't trying to start anything, the dude asked who was buying and I wanted to define my answer, nothing more! But, your statment doesn't hold water. You say they are catering to "Most Preferences". That is not true. It may be for you and the people that you are around, but not me. Right now, on my iPod, I have over 700 Contemporary Christian Songs, I have all 3 John Mayer Albums, Several Matchbox 20 Albums, and Various Country albums from Brad Paisley to Taylor Swift. Now, I have a total of 1186 songs on my iPod and not ONE of them are available on the Rock Band via disc or download. I said all of that to say, I'm not complaining about anyone "music preference" here. Rock Band and Guitar Hero sell heaps. I'm just saying, personally, if I was to buy a game it would have to be something that I like to listen to and enjoy. I don't like Metallica or Guns and Roses or The Who or Whoever. So, I'm not going to spend over $100 on a game full of music that is not for me. Just like, if they were to make a "Country Band" game, I would suspect you wouldn't be first in line to pick it up!

However, I do stand by my belief that if either Rock Band or Guitar Hero made the move to Cross Platform they would be come the instant leader in the industry for ALL GAMES! Could you imagine if Rock Band announce they would be releasing albums by Elvis, Michael Jackson, Patsy Cline, Garth Brooks, and Casting Crowns? Seriously, their sales would triple in the blink of an eye. So, while I love the gameplay of the music games, until they make it accessable for people that don't like hard or off beat rock music, than I will pass.

And Beating Hookers in GTA has nothing to do with it! :P

**End Rant**

Now, onto brighter pastures, literally!! Viva Pinata TiP is WONDERFUL!! I can't get enough of that dang game. I'm now at level 12 with an expanded garden and can't wait to play some more. It's one of those games, the kind of games you once you get started you can't put it down, games like Civ Revolution and The Sims and Animal Crossing. I'm still learning, but I'm getting better. And, to make it even better, my wife likes it! She is so NOT a gamer. She will play Wii Sports, Mario Kart, and Scene It and that's about it. But she has really caught on to Viva Pinata which makes it that much more enjoyable for me.

And, I can't talk without Mentioning LEGO Batman. Just a few weeks away, I am SO STOKED for this game. I LOVE LEGO Star Wars but would be lying if I wasn't a little disappointed with LEGO Indy. However, LEGO Batman has the potential to be my new favorite LEGO Game, as I prefer Bats to Luke any day! I got a few of the LEGO Batman Happy Meal toys over the weekend and they come with codes on the toys to unlock stuff in the game. How is that for promotion, now I want the game even more, if that's possible. Anyway, I'm trying to enjoy Viva Pinata while I can, because soon I know I'm not going to be able to put down LEGO Batman! neo

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Dude, you slay me. I wasn't trying to start anything, the dude asked who was buying and I wanted to define my answer, nothing more! But, your statment doesn't hold water. You say they are catering to "Most Preferences". That is not true. It may be for you and the people that you are around, but not me. Right now, on my iPod, I have over 700 Contemporary Christian Songs, I have all 3 John Mayer Albums, Several Matchbox 20 Albums, and Various Country albums from Brad Paisley to Taylor Swift. Now, I have a total of 1186 songs on my iPod and not ONE of them are available on the Rock Band via disc or download. I said all of that to say, I'm not complaining about anyone "music preference" here. Rock Band and Guitar Hero sell heaps. I'm just saying, personally, if I was to buy a game it would have to be something that I like to listen to and enjoy. I don't like Metallica or Guns and Roses or The Who or Whoever. So, I'm not going to spend over $100 on a game full of music that is not for me. Just like, if they were to make a "Country Band" game, I would suspect you wouldn't be first in line to pick it up!

However, I do stand by my belief that if either Rock Band or Guitar Hero made the move to Cross Platform they would be come the instant leader in the industry for ALL GAMES! Could you imagine if Rock Band announce they would be releasing albums by Elvis, Michael Jackson, Patsy Cline, Garth Brooks, and Casting Crowns? Seriously, their sales would triple in the blink of an eye. So, while I love the gameplay of the music games, until they make it accessable for people that don't like hard or off beat rock music, than I will pass.

**End Rant**

Seriously Neo, Do you really think that Rock band would be a bigger success if they put Patsy Cline & Garth Brooks songs on there? Why not go the whole hog redesign the controllers as comfy slippers and cocoa mugs?

T.

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Seriously Neo, Do you really think that Rock band would be a bigger success if they put Patsy Cline & Garth Brooks songs on there? Why not go the whole hog redesign the controllers as comfy slippers and cocoa mugs?

T.

Truthfully, yes I do! I'm not saying include it on the disc, but by opening your library to things outside of "rock" is a recipe for success. There are people, more people than you choose to acknowledge, like myself who will not buy the game because we are not fans of rock music. However, give that same person the opportunity to play songs that they love, and they become owners. It's just business. I'll give you a perfect example and then rest my case. The Dark Knight is now the 2nd best selling movie of all time. Ask Yourself, do you really believe Dark Knight would have sold as well if it were rated R? Sure, it may have been a more true version of Batman, and I would have LOVED to see the Joker let go a little under an "R" rating. But, the studio choose to make the movie accessable to a wider audience and because of that, not only is it the 2nd best selling movie of all time, but it is in most oscar talks. All I'm saying is that if you open your product up to a wider audience it is always a win-win. I rest my case!

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I still think "Banjo" Hero would sell well in Kentucky. Maybe "Sitar" Hero for India? That is one huge, untapped market.

Yes, I would really like to see a "Spoons" Hero and "Bottle Top" Hero. However, College Dorms across this country would go CRAZY for "Bean" Hero..........because we all know that beans are the most Musical Fruit :). neo

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Seriously Neo, Do you really think that Rock band would be a bigger success if they put Patsy Cline & Garth Brooks songs on there? Why not go the whole hog redesign the controllers as comfy slippers and cocoa mugs?

T.

Truthfully, yes I do! I'm not saying include it on the disc, but by opening your library to things outside of "rock" is a recipe for success. There are people, more people than you choose to acknowledge, like myself who will not buy the game because we are not fans of rock music. However, give that same person the opportunity to play songs that they love, and they become owners. It's just business.

The comparison with Dark Knight is pointless as you are hypothesising about if it were 'R' rated, it's not and is based off a comic character that has never been portrayed that way. So lets strip that from your case as irrelevent.

What does that leave?

"I'm not saying include it in the disk" - So what are you saying, you won't buy a game because it doesn't contain something you don't think is important enough be on the initial disk... Hmm ok!

"but by opening your library to things outside of "rock" is a recipe for success." -Seems pretty successful to me with the rock formula, how many console owners (as a percentage) own this game or guitar hero etc? Take out those who have no interest in this genre no matter what sorts of music is portrayed and you have pretty slim pickings for NeoBand.

"There are people, more people than you choose to acknowledge, like myself who will not buy the game because we are not fans of rock music. " - Show me where you get this idea from because as per above everything so far points to there being WAY WAY more that will because it is Rock based.

This is without the debate on the playability of the stuff you suggested, you really think the stuff you suggested would play as well? you'd be killing the formula with slower tempo songs that just wouldn't play as well.

Play lists: ok Neo just for fun please put together a 20 song play list of what you would want to see in Neoband, lets see what the other console owning people on here would think of that list?

T.

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"Blah, blah, blah"

T.

Dude, I said I rest my case, I'm done talking about this crap. If you look at the Billboard Top 100 or Yahoo Music Top 100 you will see that the best selling songs, most played songs, and most downloaded songs are most songs that are not featured on either game. That tells me that the audience for "MUSIC" is much boarder than Rock.

As for my playlist, it doesn't matter what I pick or want to play. You've completely missed the point I've tried to make. At the end of the day if I want to play Crazy by Patsy Cline then I should be able to. You don't have to like it. You don't have to think it's a "fast enough" song. You don't have to play it! I'm talking about preference, and that any game that would not limit themselves to one genre would be sucessful. Period! You can't tell me that a game set up like a Console Version of iTunes would not dominate the charts. It would offer music of any kind to an audience of any kind. I'm not trying to say take the ROCK out of Rock Band, I'm just saying add more for people that don't want to play/listen to rock. It's that simple.

Now, I'm done discussing this. Viva Pinata and LEGO Batman will more than fill my gaming needs for the month! neo

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"Blah, blah, blah"

T.

Dude, I said I rest my case, I'm done talking about this crap. If you look at the Billboard Top 100 or Yahoo Music Top 100 you will see that the best selling songs, most played songs, and most downloaded songs are most songs that are not featured on either game. That tells me that the audience for "MUSIC" is much boarder than Rock.

As for my playlist, it doesn't matter what I pick or want to play. You've completely missed the point I've tried to make. At the end of the day if I want to play Crazy by Patsy Cline then I should be able to. You don't have to like it. You don't have to think it's a "fast enough" song. You don't have to play it! I'm talking about preference, and that any game that would not limit themselves to one genre would be sucessful. Period! You can't tell me that a game set up like a Console Version of iTunes would not dominate the charts. It would offer music of any kind to an audience of any kind. I'm not trying to say take the ROCK out of Rock Band, I'm just saying add more for people that don't want to play/listen to rock. It's that simple.

Now, I'm done discussing this. Viva Pinata and LEGO Batman will more than fill my gaming needs for the month! neo

Lol is someone loosing their cool a little, anyone who starts a post with I'm done discussing this and then posts 2-3 paragraphs is obviously not done with it. ;)

I'm sure in a perfect world where development was instant and free that your idea is feasable, but back in the real world where doing songs for these games costs time money and licensing that having 2-3 people gagging for Patsy Cline doesn't make it worth their while and they'd probably loose money on it.

I'm just pointing out that once again you have shown that you want things to be different to pander to your minority rather than enjoying a good solid game for what it is or if you don't enjoy it leave it well alone.

As always it's nothing personal I just dont like it when people think that everyone has to listen to their view without others being able to debate why they hold it, after all we are a discussion forum.

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As for me and games, this month is quiet but October ( should I get my xbox back and working) is shaping up to be the craziest month for new games in a long time! - can't wait for Fallout 3 and Farcry 2!

T.

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Yeah, October is going to be CRAZY! I can't believe that Fable 2 and Fallout 3 are coming out in the same month. I'm not going to sleep until 2009! Not to mention beating LEGO Batman, getting all my Pinatas, and finishing my 2008 Franchise on Madden. Good time to be a gamer, bad time to be an adult with a job :D. neo

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Just like, if they were to make a "Country Band" game, I would suspect you wouldn't be first in line to pick it up!

I would.

Anyway, Force Unleashed tomorrow! I really wnat to see what that little scamp Vader has been up to since his master took over the universe.

An I agree with neo here. I still buy Guitar Hero (Not Rock band, I don't plan on buying Rock Band), but I'd really love it if there was a video games iTunes. Seriously, that would top the charts forever. And I mean forever. Like the best selling game of all time. I also agree with TBT, that its not feasable. It's a good concept, just not likely.

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Oh yeah, Force Unleashed. Will Viva and LEGO Batman and October, I completely forgot about that one.

I played the Demo and it was decent. Probably more of a GameFly for me. I'm still looking for a Star Wars games that marries the Action Gameplay of Jedi Academy with the Depth and Customization of Knights of the Old Republic. However, there is a LOT of hope for the KotR 3, which is rumored to be an MMO. That may be amazing! neo

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