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Yeah, I think I'm going to take a pass on the Wii myself. Sorry, I still have some of those old workout videos/dvd's :lol: Not to mention I have a dog that reminds me that he wants to go for a walk everyday ;) Something that perplexes me is some of you guy's attitude toward violence in your game, is this because your kids want to play it? Given the names of most of these games, some almost seem suprised at the language and violence. I think this is where Wii has a perfect target audience, as most of their games are aimed at younger players in mind. But that's just my 2 cents on the matter.

I'm speaking only for myself only! I decided a while ago that entertainment doesn't have to be overly violent and outlandishly seductive and feature language you wouldn't even here on a Rap album. I used the word "entertainment" for a reason, it's not only video games, that is the same standard that I hold for movies and comics and just about anything else you can put under that heading. I do it for a number of reasons. I am a new father and I do have to think about what kind of influence I'm going to be on my daughter and in reality the next generation. I think we've become how we are, not from video games like GTA, but because of the lack of respect that children have due to the direct influence of their parents and adult leaders. Point in turn, I live it a respectable neighborhood and last week I had some teenage kids drive by, run into my yard and steal 5 lit candy cane decorations from my yard. I don't blame GTA or "Scary Movie", I blame the last generation for not raising their kids with any respect. 20 years ago even the worse theives in the world wouldn't walk into someone yard and still lawn orniments. No, people today steal and destroy other peoples stuff for no gain to themselves, they just do it to satisfy a hunger for attention and at the core the disrespect they get. So if that means I have to miss out on games like Gears of War or that I'm not able to see movies like "The Departed" that is a choice that I have made. I want, not only my little girl, but those that are in contact with me to know that I stand for something. While I don't believe that my stand is any more or less important than anyone elses, it's just my stand. I don't watch rated R movies, I don't eat at "Sports Bars", I don't take my family bowling at certain alleys, and I don't play games like Gears of War or Resident Evil. So, to answer your question, it's not only about my kid. It's about how I was raise and the person that I want to be. A lot of the argument was that "if you were in that situation (mob hitman, marine in space, death fighter, etc) that you would naturally speak that way. Well, I agree with that to some extent, but we are talking about an Imaginative false world that is created by computers and movie cameras. Until my TV shoots me in the middle of battle and I start bleeding on my own floor I don't need to see someone get his face sawed off or hear my partner drop the F-Bomb 2 or 5 times. It's a game, it's a movie, it's a comic, it's all make believe!

Now, before anyone wants to flame me, I'm not saying that playing those games are wrong. It's not my intent or right to pass judgement on anyone elses convictions or beliefs. The question was simply asked why, so I wanted to clearify my stand. In the end, games were made for fun. Do you think people playing Mrs. Pac-Man thought, "man, I wish they put a chainsaw on Mrs. Pac-Man so I could grind these ghosts into little tiny pieces!". They didn't think that way because the game was fun and addictive. You don't need blood and guts and guns and F-Bombs and Sex and drugs to make a game fun and immerse and even "adult". I know this is not a "popular" thought and that's why it seems like a radical one, but I'd take Tetris or Mario Bros. or Zelda or Viva Pinata or Mega Man or Forza or Madden or Sonic or Wii Sports over anything that the "M" rated group would ever have to offer me!

Whoa, looking back now I wrote WAY too much :). Guys, please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone else, I was just trying to give my point of view for why I refuse to buy/support/play games like the earlier mentioned Gears of War. If that didn't come across clear, please forgive me. neo

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HOLD THE PRESSES!

Fans of Firefly, behold... the rebirth:

Firefly MMORPG

I am very impressed, not only do I play COH and I intend to play the new Star Trek MMORPG and also possibly the Stargate one, I now have this to contend with. It does sound pretty cool, and from that article it seems to be gathering speed. We may just see the Browncoats make a gallant return.

cheers,

Tk

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Dude, that sounds awesome. I loved CoH but haven't played a MMORPG since. I am really looking forward to the Marvel MMO game on 360, but I may have to give this one a second look. neo

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I found a 20gb PlayStation 3 tonight! :ninja:

Do I want to keep it though? :wacko:

I already own Madden 07 and Marvel UA on PS2... :unsure:

Sell it. Huge money. Not worth the $600. No killer apps.

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Whew!

Well I don't have TOO much time for a rant, but I'll give it a try.

PS3 plays BlurRays right? Terrific! Do you have a 1080p TV? Then what good does it do you? As a matter of fact unless you have AT LEAST a 1080i TV your PS3 will scale the graphics back down to 480p. In lameman's terms, what does that mean? That means that even if you're playing on a HD TV in 720p (most HD TVs) your graphics will look like crap.

The cost for a company to make a game in Bluray is astronimical. The company who made Ridge Racer 7 must sell 500,000 copies to break even. BREAK EVEN. Reason 1 for companies jumping ship. (Let me add that Ridge Racer 7 is NOT a complicated game, how much are BIG games gonna cost companies?)

Also PS3s exclusives blow. I mean sure they've still got Gran Turismo and... ummm... hang on... Oh yeah! There's a FF that'll be hitting in 2008! That's cool too right? Not just the small frys are jumping ship. Microsoft has stolen Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed & Metal Gear Solid from Sony. Not to mention that Square (maker of Final Fantasy) has said they won't be supporting Playstation nearly as much this time around.

What else? Controllers. The triggers for L2 & R2 are a nice touch, but the removal of rumble to put in their stupid "motion sensing" is retarded. It CANNOT be compared to the Wii's and often goes into convulsions driving you into walls and things the like. *cough* *garbage* *cough.*

Processing power. Probably the only PS3 really has going for itself. It's true it's the best out there but it is NOT AS GOOD AS SONY WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE. It's got an edge on the 360, nothing more.

And a few little other things to chew on. Their internet support is THE WORST of the 3 systems. And the piece of junk can't even multitask!!!! When I'm playing my 360 I can set it to download a new demo I want to try, turn on some custom tunes from a CD and play a game while I wait. You wanna download something on the PS3? You're gonna have to leave it on for an hour and do something else while it does (like the laundry). You wanna listen to music? It can ONLY do that if you're not playing a game or downloading something. You get the picture? WHERE'S ALL THAT PROCESSING POWER NOW SONY?

I would go more in depth on the piece of sh*t that PS3 is, but I don't have time. Sorry guys. ;)

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Wow, That alot of info, and all true. However, I'm more of a man of few words:

-Too Expensive

-Launch Lineup SUCKS

-Cheap Rip-Off of Wiimote (That Also SUCKS)

-Blu-Ray will FAIL

-Sony SUCKS

:D

neo

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Sure Neo... What about this link:

http://www.minimatemultiverse.com/index.ph...ost&p=21813

jk. :P;)

I'm not some type of anti-sony fanboy. But 90% of what they've said or are saying about the PS3 is a flat out lie and it REALLY bugs me that people are listenting to them blindly. You honestly have to wade through the sh*t to find the truth.

Any company that LIES to it's customers and loyal fans... Well thats a good start to turning me into an anti-sony fanboy.

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Sure, sometimes my fingers get out of hand.........and I'll leave that there..... ;)

Anyway, I agree that Sony has become the king of lies. It's also starting to be more and more aware in their other products **cough**laptopanyone**cough**. I just don't understand how any so-called Sony Fan can stay true this generation. Sony is just tanking hard and I'd be lying if I said I'm not enjoying it.

First is their price. Sure, you get a lot for your money, but do you need "a lot"? I am telling you right now, take this down, Blu-Ray will fail. Sure, the High Class might enjoy it, but in the end how many common american people are going to pay twice as much as a DVD for a "slighlty" better picture for a TV that most of them don't (and may never) own? Nintendo gets a lot of crap for not including a DVD player for the second generation in a row, but let me ask you, honestly, is the Playstation or Xbox the only DVD player you own? The vast magority of people are going to say no and thus a "WiiVD Player" is not needed. Microsoft has this down. They released an HD-DVD player as an "Add-On". It's $200 which is much cheaper than any other HD-DVD player you can find, but it's optional. If you want to invest in an already dying medium than you can waste your money, but it's not built-it like the PS3. Any seriously, everyone still remembers UMDs right.....right........anyone !?!?!?!

Second, and most important, is software. I don't care if you pull up to my house in a Dodge Viper, if I open the hood and all I see is a Ford Focus engine, we are going to have some problems. Sure, the PS3 is a powerhouse, but what is going to showcase that power, Gundam? I said this last year when people were already preaching doom for the 360, publishers are not going to make 3 seperate games. You are already seeing that right now. Any game worth playing on the PS3 (save Resistance) is available on the Xbox. Marvel: UA? It's there. Next-Gen Madden? Been playing for 6 months. Need For Speed? Sure nuff. That is not a trend that is going to end. Sure, the PS3 might be able to push more colors or more explosion effects, whooptie doo-doo. I've never once enjoyed a game because it's explosions were bigger than it's cross-gen cousin. Am I forgetting something? Oh yeah, because PS3 supports Blu-Ray that means we are going to get much more AWESOME games........right? Seriously, when the next Grand Theft Auto comes out it's going to be awe.............oh wait, that's going to be on Xbox too. Well, Assasin's Creed is going to be one of the best games ev..............that's on Xbox too, hmm. At least we can look forward to games like Mass Effect because that is going to be the greatest RPG of al...................WHAT, that's an Xbox exclusive?!?! Well, now that the GameCube is gone we can enjoy exclusive Resident Evil games all to ourse.............you have got to be kidding, that's on Xbox too!?!?! Well, don't worry Sony fans, we can always count on 75 year old Metal Gear and don't forget that we "should" have a Gran Turismo game no later than 2013. We have no worries.........

Buy a Wii and a Xbox 360 and enjoy the next generation of gaming. You won't regret it. neo

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What, you didn't hear Neo?

Metal Gear is ringing the 360 bell. ;)

I'm not gonna pretend I know if BluRay will fail or not. PS3 certainly will not. Too many people haven't researched what they're buying, and regardless of how crappy it is it will live on. But I'll tell you this much:

PS4 isn't coming.

Ask me why, go ahead, ask me why. :D:P;)

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What, you didn't hear Neo?

Metal Gear is ringing the 360 bell. ;)

I'm not gonna pretend I know if BluRay will fail or not. PS3 certainly will not. Too many people haven't researched what they're buying, and regardless of how crappy it is it will live on. But I'll tell you this much:

PS4 isn't coming.

Ask me why, go ahead, ask me why. :D:P;)

Why? Because I love hearing bad things about Sony, why?

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Well this actually isn't a BAD thing about Sony... Just a change.

Turns out Sony's been "displeased" with current "events" and has removed the head of Sony's gaming department. They "promoted" him out of that section of the company. Whatever he does now sounds pretty useless. Remember, this is the guy responsible for the Playstation 1, 2 & 3.

To replace him they've brought in another guy who, get this: Develops games. Sounds like next generation Sony will be following Sega's path and developing for other companies. (Remember though, this is simply the prediction of several field specialists).

Don't expect this to happen for another 5 years though. Neo's right. Sony has bet the farm on the PS3 doing well and they want to make sure it does.

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You know Nestle, I've heard that in passing too. The thing is, what games do they have to lean on? Gran Turismo? The beauty of Sega was that Sonic was going Multi-Platform. Sony is one of the worst 1st party publishers in the history of gaming. Sure, I'd think this is a faithful rumor, but what does Sony have to gain? I really can't imagine myself EVER buying a Sony Published game........but of course, if I could I guess I would own a Playstation :D. neo

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i heard this from a friend so i dont KNOW if its true but ....

sony since it isnt strictly gaming isnt releasing anymore PS3 till may while Nintendo strictly gaming realeases Wii's every three weeks ....

again im not sure if its true but thats what i heard

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I'm with Handsomedevil. Sony has a lot invested in the PS3 (like everything). They're pumping them out as fast as possible.

As for Sony's games Neo, they don't have much, it's true, but they still have games like ATV... That was fun. :unsure:

And I DO have a PS2. For the sole reason of Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2.

Do dis 'em til you try 'em.

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Ah, Kingdom Hearts. I always forget about that game. That is the ONE series that I would love to see on the Wii and it seems talor made for Nintendo.

Actually, I think we are going to get some HUGE news next year reguarding Square and Nintendo. If anyone has been watching you will have noticed that Final Fantasy 3 has been been released on DS and IV on GBA. Plus they they have Cystal Chronicles, XII Spin-off, and a new Tactics games headed to DS. And that's just Final Fantasy. They just announed Dragon Quest for the DS. And you can't forget that they were behind Mario Hoops Basketball. So, what does that all mean? I'm getting ready to make a HUGE prediction that is nothing short of a rumor. There has been nothing confirmed, but seeing as we have a certain trend with Square and Nintendo recently, here are my predictions:

-We will see either a "Special Edition" of Kingdom Hearts 1&2 re-released on the Wii in 2007 or we will see a the full fledged sequel in 2008 or there is the posibility of both. Either way, I believe Kingdom Hearts is coming to Wii.

-The next Final Fantasy release will have a cross-over Wii game. It will not be the same Next-Gen game, but more of a seperate story fit into the same theme and background.

-Square will support the Virtual Console and not only will be we be able to download various Dragon Quest games but we will also be able to download all PS1 or earlier Final Fantasy Games and that includes FFVII

Again, this are just random babling of a fanboys pipedream, but in a year just remember who told you this was going to happen. neo

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I don't want to turn this into some anti Sony thread (which it seems to already have become, but here's a direct quote from TIME magazine. This month they ran a section on the 5 biggest disappointments of 2006. What? The PS3? :huh:

"The big story in computer games this year was HOW TO BLOW A HUGE LEAD, by Sony. Its PlayStation 2 was the champ in the last round of the console wars. This time Sony bet on a chip called the Cell and a disc format called Blu-ray. They're probably awesome, but how would anybody know? The PS3 is hideously expensive--it goes for up to $600--and Sony manufactured only a piddling few hundred thousand for the U.S., fewer for Japan. Plus it's hard to write games for; the launch titles were lame. You know you're in trouble when you get beat by something called a Wii."

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lol, true Wii isn't a very sale worthy name :).

I agree, just because I hate Sony and everything they have ever done and everything they stand for, I didn't start this thread to make it a Sony Flame War. However, looking at the release of the PS3 there really isn't anything positive to talk about. The released an over priced system. They released WAY too few of them. They have a horrible launch line-up. The most positive thing I can say is that the PS3 did come with Tallidega Nights on Blu-Ray............but of course, since Blu-Ray will fail it isn't that much of a positive :D. neo

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