Mystery Man Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I think they did Chameleon perfectly! He looks like he stepped right outta his classic 1960’s appearances and that’s how I like it! (It’s Beetle I don’t like... gimme first appearance! ?) i just wish I could find these to enjoy in-Hand rather than online. One day... ! Edited January 20, 2018 by Mystery Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, TENIME_art said: oh he'll be back, they can never truly escape the plastic crack or this place, remember when Gmonkey said he was gone? or youbastards stormed out never to return? and the countless others? they always come sneaking back in like it never happened. the grip is too strong. We can never escape HaHahahHahahahahah um er....sorry Edited January 20, 2018 by Mattallica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmonkey2k Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mattallica said: oh he'll be back, they can never truly escape the plastic crack or this place, remember when Gmonkey said he was gone? or youbastards stormed out never to return? and the countless others? they always come sneaking back in like it never happened. the grip is too strong. We can never escape HaHahahHahahahahah um er....sorry shudder what about mtd20? He never came back after the whole Valiant debacle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, Gmonkey2k said: shudder what about mtd20? He never came back after the whole Valiant debacle... Or did He? Dum Dum Dum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmonkey2k Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Mattallica said: Or did He? Dum Dum Dum One of us on this forum...in this very thread even.... Is mtd20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Gmonkey2k said: One of us on this forum...in this very thread even.... Is mtd20. Maybe....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmonkey2k Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Mattallica said: Maybe....... We're all Skrulls. We just don't want to tell each other because we don't know we all are. A constant loop of trying to take over your own empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Heinous said: That happens all the time on marvel products. There must be a copy right on some names or something like that Yeah, I don't think it's happened much with Minimates, but you see it all the time on Marvel Legends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stack32 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 19 hours ago, Mnemosis said: Since we're debating the "right" and "wrong" of Chameleon, let's consider this... the way the character operates in the comics is STUPID. A grown man wearing a tightly fitted hockey mask over his own face and a latex mask of another person over THAT would look like nothing that made any kind of sense. So why aspire to accurately portray this ridiculous concept but then complain that this toy "doesn't work the way the character does" when the way the character works quite simply doesn't. If that's the standard we're going to apply then we're going to run into problems with a LOT of characters. One easy solution? DST needs to make a new Kraven and throw in a Chameleon head as an accessory. I'm surprised this place is being criticized for not being positive enough, I rarely see any serious criticism and even most of that is quickly dismissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinous Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 12 hours ago, stack32 said: If that's the standard we're going to apply then we're going to run into problems with a LOT of characters Which characters ar ggoing to be problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillbob316 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) ... To say nothing at all of aesthetics of slipcover vs. no slip-cover... I agree with the notion that Chameleon's play-pattern is backward and it doesn't make sense. When your entire gimmick is putting a mask on over your real "face" the real face shouldn't be the mask... for a toy. (Must we quibble about whether his real-face is his real-face or just another mask... it's his "natural" look for all intents and purposes). There's a disconnect that doesn't make sense about it. It's like a Wolverine toy with a spring-loaded mechanism that only makes his claws retract. There's a... play disconnect. Or even more correctly... it would be like an Iron Man toy that had exterior snap-on "Armor" pieces that converted him into Tony Stark. Iron Man doesn't go UNDER Tony Stark Armor. Mary Jane doesn't go UNDER Chameleon. And as an anal retentive weirdo it kind-of irks me that this Minimate's natural state is, for all intents and purposes, actually a Mary-Jane Minimate. It irks me that this minimate makes it seem as though Mary-Jane is Chameleon's true identity. It doesn't feel like this Minimate is truly a Chameleon Minimate somehow, just as the original one didn't ever feel like it was truly a Jonah Jameson minimate. THAT said, I agree that the original Jameson mask was hideous, and natural human faces don't work well as slipcovers, so I'm NOT saying MJ should have been one. I think the best solution would have just been swappable heads. Worked on larger Chameleon and Morph action figures in the past, no reason it wouldn't here, in a toy line built around parts swapping. Or they could have given more care to the parts Chameleon came with to create logical headswaps like Marvel Legends did. They did Chameleon in a suit, w/ heads for JJJ and Hammerhead (both of whom also look natural in a suit)... plus then we'd have snuck in a free Hammerhead Minimate, which I'm sure none of us would sneeze at. Probably wouldn't hurt to throw a Spidey slipcover mask in just for giggles. A spidey-villain who impersonates people could always stand to come with a Spidey mask. But ANYWAY, will I buy it anyway? Sure. Heck, I'll buy two, because I want a Chameleon and an MJ. I may even buy 3 and make a suit Chameleon, because I agree with the earlier sentinemt that the Bathrobe feels dated. Ultimately it's all just splitting hairs and quibbling, which is what nerdy internet forums about nerdy things like comics and toys are made for... and like most opinions, it's a matter of personal taste. But yes. I agree with the sentiment that this toy wasn't done properly. Per say. For the above reasons. In my opinion. Which ultimately means nothing because the toy still exists and never won't exist. Edited January 22, 2018 by Gillbob316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattallica Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Gillbob316 said: ... To say nothing at all of aesthetics of slipcover vs. no slip-cover... I agree with the notion that Chameleon's play-pattern is backward and it doesn't make sense. When your entire gimmick is putting a mask on over your real "face" the real face shouldn't be the mask... for a toy. (Must we quibble about whether his real-face is his real-face or just another mask... it's his "natural" look for all intents and purposes). There's a disconnect that doesn't make sense about it. It's like a Wolverine toy with a spring-loaded mechanism that only makes his claws retract. There's a... play disconnect. Or even more correctly... it would be like an Iron Man toy that had exterior snap-on "Armor" pieces that converted him into Tony Stark. Iron Man doesn't go UNDER Tony Stark Armor. Mary Jane doesn't go UNDER Chameleon. And as an anal retentive weirdo it kind-of irks me that this Minimate's natural state is, for all intents and purposes, actually a Mary-Jane Minimate. It irks me that this minimate makes it seem as though Mary-Jane is Chameleon's true identity. It doesn't feel like this Minimate is truly a Chameleon Minimate somehow, just as the original one didn't ever feel like it was truly a Jonah Jameson minimate. THAT said, I agree that the original Jameson mask was hideous, and natural human faces don't work well as slipcovers, so I'm NOT saying MJ should have been one. I think the best solution would have just been swappable heads. Worked on larger Chameleon and Morph action figures in the past, no reason it wouldn't hear, in a toy line built around parts swapping. Or they could have given more care to the parts Chameleon came with to create logical headswaps like Marvel Legends did. They did Chameleon in a suit, w/ heads for JJJ and Hammerhead (both of whom also look natural in a suit)... plus then we'd have snuck in a free Hammerhead Minimate, which I'm sure none of us would sneeze at. Probably wouldn't hurt to throw a Spidey slipcover mask in just for giggles. A spidey-villain who impersonates people could always stand to come with a Spidey mask. But ANYWAY, will I buy it anyway? Sure. Heck, I'll buy two, because I want a Chameleon and an MJ. I may even buy 3 and make a suit Chameleon, because I agree with the earlier sentinemt that the Bathrobe feels dated. Ultimately it's all just splitting hairs and quibbling, which is what nerdy internet forums about nerdy things like comics and toys are made for... and like most opinions, it's a matter of personal taste. But yes. I agree with the sentiment that this toy wasn't done properly. Per say. For the above reasons. In my opinion. Which ultimately means nothing because the toy still exists and never won't exist. I agree 100% with all this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMCMotu Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I like the slip cover because anyone can be Chameleon. Put a anybody's head under there, put him shelf for six months, and now you have a mystery in the waiting. Could you imagine a MJ slip cover...hideous. Two heads is an option but a small Chameleon head is still an option. The character isn't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicidewatch Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Distribution on this wave must be piss poor because I’ve barely even seen an eBay listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 5:04 AM, buttheadsmate said: I find it odd that both the Chameleon & Jack O' Lantern require the prefix 'Marvel's....' on the packaging ? Could there be some confusion that the contents of a Marvel Minimates package might contain ......er....otherwise ? Not a complaint just an observation There are some words that can't be trademarked, like animals, so they throw the company name on top. Then there are instances where a company needs to differentiate their IP from someone else's. I think Captain Marvel used to work that way until DC gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, suicidewatch said: Distribution on this wave must be piss poor because I’ve barely even seen an eBay listing. I'm now wondering if TRU ordered half as many of this assortment. Seems like it would have shown up on TRU.com by now like the last series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinous Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Gillbob316 said: ... To say nothing at all of aesthetics of slipcover vs. no slip-cover... I agree with the notion that Chameleon's play-pattern is backward and it doesn't make sense. When your entire gimmick is putting a mask on over your real "face" the real face shouldn't be the mask... for a toy. (Must we quibble about whether his real-face is his real-face or just another mask... it's his "natural" look for all intents and purposes). There's a disconnect that doesn't make sense about it. It's like a Wolverine toy with a spring-loaded mechanism that only makes his claws retract. There's a... play disconnect. Or even more correctly... it would be like an Iron Man toy that had exterior snap-on "Armor" pieces that converted him into Tony Stark. Iron Man doesn't go UNDER Tony Stark Armor. Mary Jane doesn't go UNDER Chameleon. And as an anal retentive weirdo it kind-of irks me that this Minimate's natural state is, for all intents and purposes, actually a Mary-Jane Minimate. It irks me that this minimate makes it seem as though Mary-Jane is Chameleon's true identity. It doesn't feel like this Minimate is truly a Chameleon Minimate somehow, just as the original one didn't ever feel like it was truly a Jonah Jameson minimate. THAT said, I agree that the original Jameson mask was hideous, and natural human faces don't work well as slipcovers, so I'm NOT saying MJ should have been one. I think the best solution would have just been swappable heads. Worked on larger Chameleon and Morph action figures in the past, no reason it wouldn't here, in a toy line built around parts swapping. Or they could have given more care to the parts Chameleon came with to create logical headswaps like Marvel Legends did. They did Chameleon in a suit, w/ heads for JJJ and Hammerhead (both of whom also look natural in a suit)... plus then we'd have snuck in a free Hammerhead Minimate, which I'm sure none of us would sneeze at. Probably wouldn't hurt to throw a Spidey slipcover mask in just for giggles. A spidey-villain who impersonates people could always stand to come with a Spidey mask. But ANYWAY, will I buy it anyway? Sure. Heck, I'll buy two, because I want a Chameleon and an MJ. I may even buy 3 and make a suit Chameleon, because I agree with the earlier sentinemt that the Bathrobe feels dated. Ultimately it's all just splitting hairs and quibbling, which is what nerdy internet forums about nerdy things like comics and toys are made for... and like most opinions, it's a matter of personal taste. But yes. I agree with the sentiment that this toy wasn't done properly. Per say. For the above reasons. In my opinion. Which ultimately means nothing because the toy still exists and never won't exist. You don't need to buy two packs to get Mary Jane and chameleon if you have random minimate parts laying around. Just make MJ, then throw random parts under the robe, boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillbob316 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Perhaps you missed the part where I said I was an anal retentive weirdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Isn't that just part of being a collector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinous Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 4 hours ago, MisterPL said: Isn't that just part of being a collector? Just the weird ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENIME_art Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Let me ask this - are people who aren't seeing this in their stores (or no re-stocks for those of us who managed to find them), seeing an overabundance of Spider-Man Homecoming packs? Because remember how these wouldn't scan for those of us who found them, and the cashiers just ended up resorting to using the Homecoming SKU to ring them up? Because I keep looking for other board members, and haven't seen them since I bought mine, but I'm seeing the Homecoming packs multiplying every time I check. There might be a problem at the distribution center. Zach might need to look into it, or at least get someone whose job it is to look into it (since I doubt it's his). Edited January 23, 2018 by TENIME_art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I've got some leftover Homecoming sets but not what I'd consider an overabundance at all. There might be half a dozen at most, probably less. Series 23 continues to collect dust. There are about the same number of those. Plenty of Black Panther 'mates at the front of the store with the rest, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaqualizer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 The last minimate wave I saw at my TRU was the wolverine wave. We’ve had zilch since then. Probably why i’m enjoying the animated wave so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx_6 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I found these on Sunday by my grandmother ‘s when I was there visiting her for her 101st birthday. They rang up (and scanned at the scanner) as Wave 23. I was super excited to find this wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbofett Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Your grandmother is 101? A tip of the cap to her, and a happy birthday. Also glad you found the latest wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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