Lobsterman Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 http://www.comicvine.com/articles/hellcat-1-coming-to-marvel-this-december/1100-153529/ Does this put Patsy above, below, or right next to Dazzler and Howard in terms of market visibility? </pouringgasolineonthefire> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTZach Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kostisfire Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 ....I'm just sitting here, waiting for the Black Panther, Silver Surfer and Moon Knight books to be properly announced, but Marvel it seems has other priorities. Honestly, Red Wolf? Hellcat? Herc? Black Knight? But no Punisher? Strange times indeed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stack32 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 http://www.comicvine.com/articles/hellcat-1-coming-to-marvel-this-december/1100-153529/ Does this put Patsy above, below, or right next to Dazzler and Howard in terms of market visibility? </pouringgasolineonthefire> Well, she was an Avenger and is going to be in the Jessica Jones Netflix series... so D-list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobsterman Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. That was a mean troll, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Eh, it's not that big of a mistake. Greer Nelson did get her start as a super hero wearing the a version of the Hellcat costume (known simply as the Cat). Eventually Greer was mystically transformed into the legendary Cat Person champion we all know and love as Tigra. A copy of the Cat costume turned up years later and was used by Patsy Walker to become Hellcat. So there's some crossover and shared history there. I like to tell them apart by remembering that Pasty was once married to the Son of Satan (making her Hellcat name more appropriate), and Tigra looks like a human tiger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Affirmative. She is "A-list." But DST is probably too chicken to make her. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaIceman Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. I used to, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniFiend UK Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. An that would be a good reason for a two pack. start lobbying your work mates. back to the comic. Glad to see a Hellcat comic Sad to see they have gone it looks like the cartoony humour funny way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmonkey2k Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. I actual like Tigra, and wouldn't mind her as part of a A-Force pack. Tigra actually got "more popular" when she showed up on Super Hero Squad. At least that is where I got interested in the character. It was EXTREAMLY hard to write this without one of you guys turning it into a double entendre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. An that would be a good reason for a two pack. start lobbying your work mates. back to the comic. Glad to see a Hellcat comic Sad to see they have gone it looks like the cartoony humour funny way Really getting back to her roots, though, since Patsy Walker starred for many years in a teen romance title before Steve Englehart decided it would be fun to roll her into the Marvel Universe and make her a superhero. I like that Marvel is striving to reach the wider female audience that reads comics but stays away from superheroes because of the traditional portrayal of women in them. Doubt this will last more than a year, but good luck to them. And speaking of the Red Wolf comic... why oh why did they revive the character and take away the coolest thing about him, his wolf's head mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanester Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be honest, I thought Hellcat and Tigra were the same person. Not a Defenders reader, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 When did we start letting girls make comics? George Perez's art looks a little shaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Rex Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 And speaking of the Red Wolf comic... why oh why did they revive the character and take away the coolest thing about him, his wolf's head mask? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought for a second there was a slight chance we'd get one of those masks down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 When did we start letting girls make comics? George Perez's art looks a little shaky. He's had some health problems the last few years, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 That's what I was afraid of. I recall him being hired to design a line of DC Direct action figures years ago and not much came of it. He's one of the reasons I got back into comics in the 80s. But even at his peak his classic style would look out of place among the current crop of artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 But even at his peak his classic style would look out of place among the current crop of artists.Agreed. He is significantly better than the current crop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I grew up on a steady diet of characters who looked like their costumes were painted on. Prior to that, guys like Al Williamson dressed their characters in what looked like clingy, wet rayon. These days the fad seems to be canvas and leather. While I appreciate all the styles, I'm not sure they all work with every character. I will say that Bruce Timm managed to do pretty much the entire DCU justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think Perez' style is timeless, but that's just me. Alan Davis falls into that category too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karamazov80 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think Perez' style is timeless, but that's just me. Alan Davis falls into that category too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'd put José Luís García-López in that category as well. There's a reason they keep coming back to him for style guide art. Tom Derenick is a relatively young guy who's obviously been influenced by Davis, Neal Adams, and the like. Nice to see another generation taking up the mantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadpool Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 When did we start letting girls make comics? hoping this is a horribly sexist joke and not your true meaning not all comics are for you sorry not sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigvis497 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'd put José Luís García-López in that category as well. There's a reason they keep coming back to him for style guide art. Tom Derenick is a relatively young guy who's obviously been influenced by Davis, Neal Adams, and the like. Nice to see another generation taking up the mantle. Derenick has been around a lot longer than you would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPL Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 When did we start letting girls make comics? hoping this is a horribly sexist joke and not your true meaning not all comics are for you sorry not sorry Just lampooning the stereotype. You know, the same fellas who can't stand the thought of someone new trying on another character's tights. I'd put José Luís García-López in that category as well. There's a reason they keep coming back to him for style guide art. Tom Derenick is a relatively young guy who's obviously been influenced by Davis, Neal Adams, and the like. Nice to see another generation taking up the mantle. Derenick has been around a lot longer than you would think. A lot longer than others would think. Hence my use of the word "relatively" when discussing guys like Adams and García-López. I've been following Tom's work for 20 years. I know he's not new but he's definitely from a younger generation. These days it seems hot artists are being plucked from the fashion industry. Which is fine. I'm all about variety but not everyone who can draw can tell a story. Sequential art is a different animal from cover art or poster illustration, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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