minimadman Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Saw this article about a new Green Lantern but instead of being gay this one is an Arab-American. I guess that DC now stands for Diversity Comics. I wish that everyone would realize that if you want something to not be a big deal (i.e. skin color, religious or ethnic background, sexual orientation, etc.) then stop acting like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniFiend UK Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Not bothered by skin colour, religion, sexual preference, musical tastes but what's with the gun? GL's don't need guns. An he looks like a S&M gimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Collector Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) I know very little about GL, in fact outside of JLA books and things like Kingdom Come, I have never even read a GL story. So question for all of you fans: are all of Earth's representatives to the GL corps American? And if so, is there a reason why? A story reason I mean, not that they fear readers will not relate or something. Edit: just to be clear, I'm not looking to provoke anything, I'm just genuinely curious. He is an Arab-American, but why does he specifically have to have anything to do with America at all? Edited September 5, 2012 by UK Collector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjasontodd Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Probably because the writers and editors are American (I think they mostly are at least) working for an American based company and serving an American driven industry. When I heard he was Arab I was actually hoping he was a terrorist. Hear me out on this; green lanterns are chosen because they overcome fear, right? I think this suicide bombers, deluded as they are through religious belief, have tons of guts to go through with what they set out to do. It would have been a cooler story to take this bad guy and show him through the universe and other planets/species that his beliefs are narrow sighted in terms of the bigger picture. Edited September 5, 2012 by mrjasontodd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Why is he dressed as Kick-Ass? ... Anyway I find it interesting that the ring says "Error" when it gets to him. Faulty ring? Perhaps a chance to turn him INTO a Green Lantern terrorist later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdyCarter Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Anyway I find it interesting that the ring says "Error" when it gets to him. Faulty ring? Yeah its a "broken" ring, the circumstances behind it were explained in the Green Lantern Annual last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Saw this article about a new Green Lantern but instead of being gay this one is an Arab-American. I guess that DC now stands for Diversity Comics. I wish that everyone would realize that if you want something to not be a big deal (i.e. skin color, religious or ethnic background, sexual orientation, etc.) then stop acting like it is. Do you mean that we the audience should stop acting like it's a big deal, or the companies? Because I think that the majority of people don't think these things are a big deal. But the companies are going to continue to do stunts like this, unfortunately, as long as they get even a modicum of press attention. I know very little about GL, in fact outside of JLA books and things like Kingdom Come, I have never even read a GL story. So question for all of you fans: are all of Earth's representatives to the GL corps American? And if so, is there a reason why? A story reason I mean, not that they fear readers will not relate or something. Edit: just to be clear, I'm not looking to provoke anything, I'm just genuinely curious. He is an Arab-American, but why does he specifically have to have anything to do with America at all? Yes, they've all been Americans. It makes sense in Hal's case, at least, since his predecessor, Abin Sur, crash-landed in the American Southwest and ordered his ring to bring him the closest possible replacement. Beyond that... yeah, it doesn't make all that much sense that only Americans would be without fear. But I should point out that Green Lantern does have a history of being a socially-conscious title; it was a big deal when John Stewart was introduced, and of course there's Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams' Green Lantern/Green Arrow stories (overrated though they may be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Two-Face Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I've expressed my thoughts on this before, but to reiterate: 1. Intentional diversity 2. Intentional controversial diversity 3. Carries a pistol 4. As proven above, similarities with terrorists 5. TATTOO. He can't have a tattoo if he's a Muslim (I'm assuming he is, which may make me sound like an ass but come on) So i have quite a few problems with DC's "creativity" on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Baz is an muslim,arab,american i think.Cbm had an article on dc confirming his nationality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM2 Dinobot Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I swear we had this conversation months ago when this was announced. Didn't we? Or am I just imagining things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Collector Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yes, they've all been Americans. It makes sense in Hal's case, at least, since his predecessor, Abin Sur, crash-landed in the American Southwest and ordered his ring to bring him the closest possible replacement. Beyond that... yeah, it doesn't make all that much sense that only Americans would be without fear. But I should point out that Green Lantern does have a history of being a socially-conscious title; it was a big deal when John Stewart was introduced, and of course there's Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams' Green Lantern/Green Arrow stories (overrated though they may be). Thanks for confirming. It's not something I'd ever considered before, but they make a big point of this guys nationality, and the question popped into my brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 ......[they] have tons of guts to go through with what they set out to do. Suicide bombers are gutless ....most of their guts land on the innocent people they kill . 'Suicide' literally means "to kill oneself" ....not everybody surrounding [you]. I'm not overtly religious but suicide is a sin within virtually every religious group (don't trust me trust Google) including most Arabic faiths . Whether suicide is right or wrong is not for me to say but I'm pretty confident slaying surrounding people whilst you detonate yourself is wrong.....it doesn't display fearlessness it displays psychopathy . I was going to add that the above is my opinion ..it is...but it is also incontrovertibly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) From what I learned in the my history class Muslims take pride in being a suicide bomber. They kill all their unfaithfull people of this world. This act is called jihad. My teacher who has practiced every religion told us that Muslims feel proud when their child is killed doing the jihad. They have a "party" and celebrate their child's transportation to heaven. We went on a school trip too,whose theme was to learn about muslims and the man there told us the same things. They basically exist in the coran. Edited September 5, 2012 by Kostisfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) I need to speak with your teacher who needs to study the Koran a tad more. Edited September 5, 2012 by buttheadsmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 From what I learned in the my history class Muslims take pride in being a suicide bomber. They kill all their unfaithfull people of this world. This act is called jihad. My teacher who has practiced every religion told us that Muslims feel proud when their child is killed doing the jihad. They have a "party" and celebrate their child's transportation to heaven. We went on a school trip too,whose theme was to learn about muslims and the man there told us the same things. They basically exist in the coran. That's not true of all Muslims, Kostisfire. The majority of Muslims are decent, devout, peace loving people. I'm no expert in any religion, but I don't believe there are any specific phrases in the Koran that incite people to blow themselves up in the name of Islam. People, can we continue to discuss diversity in Green Lantern, and comics in general, without falling prey to posting generalisations about specific groups of people. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I need to speak with your teacher who needs to study the Koran a tad more. Good luck with that. The woman believes every ghost story you tell her. Basically we spend all of our first year talking about ghosts and doing zero study. She has told some stories she lived that are on par with the horror films. That reminds of another mrs whose son has tried to kill her 5 times and her daughter tried to hang herself while her other son is a drug addict (and many other things).Which reminds me of another story. I should write a book someday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) I should write a book someday... ...........howzabout 'The Greek Lantern'? Wasn't there a comic about an English Superman ? Yes there was ..... I bet he had ears Edited September 5, 2012 by buttheadsmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 From what I learned in the my history class Muslims take pride in being a suicide bomber. They kill all their unfaithfull people of this world. This act is called jihad. My teacher who has practiced every religion told us that Muslims feel proud when their child is killed doing the jihad. They have a "party" and celebrate their child's transportation to heaven. We went on a school trip too,whose theme was to learn about muslims and the man there told us the same things. They basically exist in the coran. That's not true of all Muslims, Kostisfire. The majority of Muslims are decent, devout, peace loving people. I'm no expert in any religion, but I don't believe there are any specific phrases in the Koran that incite people to blow themselves up in the name of Islam. People, can we continue to discuss diversity in Green Lantern, and comics in general, without falling prey to posting generalisations about specific groups of people. Thank you. Sorry if it came out wrong. That's what I've been told,I didn't say that everyone wants to be blown up. Only the fanatics do such things. As in every religion fanatism is a sin. For example the fanatic Christians contributed in the destruction of the Parthenon. I'm sorry if it came out wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttheadsmate Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Good stuff Kostisfire Shall we leave it there ? Please . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker 42 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I need to speak with your teacher who needs to study the Koran a tad more. Good luck with that. The woman believes every ghost story you tell her. Basically we spend all of our first year talking about ghosts and doing zero study. She has told some stories she lived that are on par with the horror films. That reminds of another mrs whose son has tried to kill her 5 times and her daughter tried to hang herself while her other son is a drug addict (and many other things).Which reminds me of another story. I should write a book someday... Yooooooooour teacher needs to have her credentials checked. I mean I know Greece is hurting for money, but... Holy hot damn. Does anyone else find it amusing that he is dressed as Kick-Ass? Or was that just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 One last thing. From Wikipedia: According to the authoritative Dictionary of Islam jihad is defined as: "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad ... enjoined especially for the purpose of advancing Islam and repelling evil from Muslims."[1] The prominent British-American orientalist Bernard Lewis argues that in the hadiths and the classical manuals of Islamic law jihad has a military meaning in the large majority of cases.[5] In a commentary of the hadith Sahih Muslim, entitled al-Minhaj, the medieval Islamic scholar Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi stated that "one of the collective duties of the community as a whole (fard kifaya) is to lodge a valid protest, to solve problems of religion, to have knowledge of Divine Law, to command what is right and forbid wrong conduct".[6] An accurate interpretation of the concept of Jihad is provided by the BBC about how Muslims describe three different types of struggles:[7] A believer's internal struggle to live out the Muslim faith as well as possible The struggle to build a good Muslim society Holy war: the struggle to defend Islam, with force if necessary It turns out that jihad means to try to be the best person you can and defend your home,religion with violence if you are forced to. The fanatics take it as "kill everyone" when it doesn't mean that. Basically it's like every other religion. Defend your home if you are threatened and try to be the best person you can. And I'm done. Would anyone be interested in a thread full of real crime stories? They are 100% real and they are pretty dark and scary. I'm thinking of posting one such story every week. Maybe put them in my brickfilms. Would that interest you? As for my teacher,she needs to be put in an asylum and stay there forever. A friend of my family has such a clinic actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellpop Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Does anyone else find it amusing that he is dressed as Kick-Ass? Or was that just me? I dunno if I'd say amused, but... Jim Lee strikes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostisfire Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I kinda like the costume. The gun is strange but I like the luchador mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjasontodd Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 This will be Rey Mysterio's next mask. Watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcastick Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) I think it's pretty cool, add diversity......but his outfit sucks. Edited September 6, 2012 by jcastick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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